classic33
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The regulations in the US can vary from county to county let alone state to state.
Inexperienced e-Bike Riders [Local Problem?]
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matticus
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Under-rated post.
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PedallingNowhereSlowly
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https://bust-a-ride.com/
Are these really type approved? Does type approval not require registration of the vehicle with the DVLA?
FTR, they are twist and go up to 15 mph. Presumably the awkwardly placed pedals are there to get you home if the battery runs flat.
As you don't have to pedal (beyond 4 mph), surely not an EPAC?
Some more blurb from the website:
Marketing blurb from a faceache advertisement:
Are these really type approved? Does type approval not require registration of the vehicle with the DVLA?
FTR, they are twist and go up to 15 mph. Presumably the awkwardly placed pedals are there to get you home if the battery runs flat.
As you don't have to pedal (beyond 4 mph), surely not an EPAC?
Some more blurb from the website:
Marketing blurb from a faceache advertisement:
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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- Inside my skull
What type are they approved as? I thought twist and go died a long time back.
classic33
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Wisper, who sell type approved bicycles have there's done separately through the MSVA.
To get type approval for a range of bikes would be to expensive. Which is why according to posts made on here, the MVSA is used.
If they have a Twist and Go throttle, and type approved, then they're saying they've been through the MVSA. In which case they'd now fall under the class of light moped, not e-bikes or e-assist bike.
Conclusion, marketing hype. Like e-scooters, neither illegal to sell or own, just not legal anywhere but on private land.
classic33
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There's a few out there that want the right to use it on their e-assist, without going through the proper channels.
Part of the old regulations they want to keep/bring back, but without getting it checked.
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PedallingNowhereSlowly
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I seem to be encountering 2 or 3 different riders each week now - particularly on the lunchtime dog walk. Not many about at 5:30 am when I take the pooch for the morning walk. That's in addition to the delivery riders - which has gone from one seen regularly, to three now seen regularly.
They are a real PITA on the shared leisure routes because they travel so quickly around blind sweeping bends that they cannot stop in time and you have to react very quickly to pull the dog and yourself to safety.
There is a chap I've noticed some time ago selling lots ofsecond hand used bikes on Facebook Marketplace, which is dubious in itself. He has now taken to selling e-bikes and e-bike conversions. 1000 Watt motors. Twist and Go. Advertised as being able to reach 33 mph; not sure that's quite feasible but I know they can certainly exceed 25 mph.
This morning, I've reported this chap to the DVSA and the fuzz.
They are a real PITA on the shared leisure routes because they travel so quickly around blind sweeping bends that they cannot stop in time and you have to react very quickly to pull the dog and yourself to safety.
There is a chap I've noticed some time ago selling lots of
This morning, I've reported this chap to the DVSA and the fuzz.
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PedallingNowhereSlowly
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I had an illegal e-bike* rider play chicken with me last night. They were stood talking to another human when I first sighted them. They set off, veered onto the wrong side of the road and came and rode toward me as I reached a mini-RAB. I held my line, covering the brakes, and they moved off it at the last second, thankfully.
*modified EAPC I think, went from a standstill to over approx 10 mph without pedalling
*modified EAPC I think, went from a standstill to over approx 10 mph without pedalling
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PedallingNowhereSlowly
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Another incident today. I was making a right turn. I did my lifesaver, and signalled clearly (all caught on video). The e-cyclist was behind the vehicle behind me, the driver of which was keeping a safe distance back.
I moved over to the centre line of the road. Queuing traffic in opposite direction, with yellow hatchings across the junction. These were being ignored, so I slowed to try and negotiate my way safely across.
The idiot on the e-bike meanwhile overtook the vehicle behind me on the right hand side - and then proceeded to overtake me on my right side - even though there was nothing on my left. Abusive remarks were made toward me, before the rider sped off. And sped is the right word - it was fast and it was close.
It was that close I actually felt a bit shaken by it - and the thuggish tone of the abuse.
I moved over to the centre line of the road. Queuing traffic in opposite direction, with yellow hatchings across the junction. These were being ignored, so I slowed to try and negotiate my way safely across.
The idiot on the e-bike meanwhile overtook the vehicle behind me on the right hand side - and then proceeded to overtake me on my right side - even though there was nothing on my left. Abusive remarks were made toward me, before the rider sped off. And sped is the right word - it was fast and it was close.
It was that close I actually felt a bit shaken by it - and the thuggish tone of the abuse.
Goes hand in hand with the thuggish riding of these riders.
