Inconsistencies or plot holes in films

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MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
You mean the other loco they took from the yard? They didn't (couldn't) steer it and it crashed into a tree.

As for the TT itself (actually Lion), I guess they just humphed it through the streets with a lot of elbow grease.

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that road clearly has a curve to it.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Why on films when someone picks up a pistol and aims it at someone is there a click?

These semi auto pistols are either double-action and don't need the hammer cocking in order to get off the first shot (Sig, 1911, Hi Power, older Walther), or else have an internal striker with no external hammer that can be physically cocked at all! (Glock, S&W)

Seeing someone aim a Glock 17 Gen4 at someone with an accompanying 'click' makes me feel physically ill. It's the firearm equivalent of using a starting handle to crank a Prius into life, that's how realistic it isn't, so why do film makers insist upon this affectation?

And even more absurd is to point the gun at someone then only after while do they cock the guns. Presumably they'd previously been threatening them with uncocked guns without even a bullet up the spout until then. Good guys and bad guys all do this. Even Gene Hackman's posse do this whilst pointing their guns at Richard Harris in Unforgiven. Surely director Clint Eastwood has actually handled a firearm at some point.

Maybe a firearms expert can explain what's going on, as I've only once fired a pistol so maybe there's some extra thing going on here.
 
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Drago

Drago

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Having cocked their Glock and shot nearly all of the 50+ bullets from the clip, they then put it back in their holster with the safety off!
Firearms errors are such a mainstay of Hollywood such that it is the realistic portrayals such as in Heat that are notable. Not sure any count as plot holes.
Glocks don't have a safety! The only user operable safety is built into the trigger blade and works automatically as the user goes to fire. It's actually very clever.
 
Billy Elliott.
The end when the dad and brother go to watch Billy on stage. They exit the tube on the jubilee line at Canary Wharf but go to the Royal Opera House in the Covent Garden. That’s a very long walk. It would make more sense for them to have exited at Westminster or changed at Green Park for the Piccadilly line.
But they were from up north so probably got all confused. 😀

Northerners aren't afraid of hard work! Probably didn't want to go soft.
 
And even more absurd is to point the gun at someone then only after while do they cock the guns. Presumably they'd previously been threatening them with uncocked guns without even a bullet up the spout until then. Good guys and bad guys all do this. Even Gene Hackman's posse do this whilst pointing their guns at Richard Harris in Unforgiven. Surely director Clint Eastwood has actually handled a firearm at some point.

Maybe a firearms expert can explain what's going on, as I've only once fired a pistol so maybe there's some extra thing going on here.

With revolvers, the old cowboy ones needed manual cocking and could go off if you drop them wrong so carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber .
All the modern 20th century ones can be manually cocked but the trigger does double duty ( double action) and will cock as well as release the hammer. Revolvers do not have a safety catch or lever.
Similar with automatic pistols , the older ones need manual cocking for the first shot but can be safety locked after cocking. With newer designs the trigger ( double action) can in addition cock the first shot only . Often there is a decocking lever and no safety lever.
The current crop have no hammer to cock. The firing pin is part of a big bit of metal, the striker which is cocked and released by the trigger. (Mostly) no safety lever, decocking lever, or hammer . Easier to teach, remember and use.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
With revolvers, the old cowboy ones needed manual cocking and could go off if you drop them wrong so carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber .
All the modern 20th century ones can be manually cocked but the trigger does double duty ( double action) and will cock as well as release the hammer. Revolvers do not have a safety catch or lever.
Similar with automatic pistols , the older ones need manual cocking for the first shot but can be safety locked after cocking. With newer designs the trigger ( double action) can in addition cock the first shot only . Often there is a decocking lever and no safety lever.
The current crop have no hammer to cock. The firing pin is part of a big bit of metal, the striker which is cocked and released by the trigger. (Mostly) no safety lever, decocking lever, or hammer . Easier to teach, remember and use.

Well yes, I know that (surprisingly given how few guns I've handled), but the point is why would anyone go into a battle, or at least
threaten your enemy, and only cock your gun, or even chamber a bullet, after a bit of coversation.

Even I, a non expert, would have a bullet up the spout, and hammer (or equivalent) cocked before I was in a situation of pointing it at anyone
 

classic33

Leg End Member
In "Apollo 13" (11th - 17th April, 1970), a Lockheed-Martin coffee mug is visible in several scenes, on flight director Gene Kranz' desk.
Lockheed Martin was not formed until 1995 with the merger of Lockheed Corporation and Martin Marietta.
 
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Drago

Drago

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Demolition Man.

What kind of museum keeps firearms and love ammo in the same display, and not only that keeps the guns cleaned and well-oiled?
 
Well yes, I know that (surprisingly given how few guns I've handled), but the point is why would anyone go into a battle, or at least
threaten your enemy, and only cock your gun, or even chamber a bullet, after a bit of coversation.

Even I, a non expert, would have a bullet up the spout, and hammer (or equivalent) cocked before I was in a situation of pointing it at anyone

Racking the slide to show that you are serious means that up to that point, you have been threatening them with a paperweight. No one would do that.
For revolvers it is usually better and safer not to cock the hammer because the trigger gets much lighter.
With pump action shotguns, some people say that the sound will scare off burglars. Other people say that the sound that will stop burglars is the loud bang and you should rack and top up the magazine before showing yourself.
In a Michael Douglas cop movie, he takes his cut down shotgun from the car and, for dramatic effect, loads it from the spare ammo carrier strapped to the stock. Now all of his spare ammunition is back in the car boot, not with him.
 

Randomnerd

Bimbleur
Location
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In Hot Dirty Housewife Nympho III the plumber is carrying a 10mm adjustable spanner which is clearly too small for the repair he is doing. And don’t get me started on them being housewives. I’m not sure they’re even married.

Watch closely at 1:23:17: you will notice the second error. The stunt penis is circumcised, when it's quite clear at 56:30 - 57:22 that Herr Plunger isn't.

Ruined it for me.
 
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