Inappropriate bahaviour

[Night Train]

We'll have to agree to disagree here,

I think we do agree.
'Where reasonable' means, to me, where standing up to take flash photos would be inappropriate, and disrupting during a performance or where flash photography could damage fragile artwork, or where there are copyright issues, or in a private situation.

Sometimes, at events, people are asked to not take photos until the end and it may well be reasonable to observe that even though it maybe legal to ignore the request.

I have often asked people not to photograph my work in progress, or not to publish their own images of my work but to acquire them in context by linking from my website. It is a reasonable request that does not stop them from ignoring me but to date people have been fair about it.

It is all about respecting a personal request more so then being subservient to someone claiming some fictional legislation.

It is a shame that it has stopped you taking photographs.

 

[classic33]

The photos were being taken on private property & the owner of that property can ask that no photos be taken. Stopping you is another matter, cameras are everywhere these days.

All too often if you are seen carrying a camera, let alone using one, your reason for doing so will be open to questioning from just about anyone.

 

[classic33]

Incidentally, I have no idea what the current legislation is, if indeed it has changed, but I doubt it will be much different.

http://www.pbiz.co.uk/index.php/photographers-rights

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I think we do agree.
'Where reasonable' means, to me, where standing up to take flash photos would be inappropriate, and disrupting during a performance or where flash photography could damage fragile artwork, or where there are copyright issues, or in a private situation.

I agree with the flash bit, what a horrible invention it can be at times!

It is a shame that it has stopped you taking photographs.

There was a lot more to it than just that obviously. Most of my experiences were when I worked as a freelance in London, and quite frankly, I don't miss it one bit. There is also the fact that if you do something which has been a hobby, as a job, then you either love it, or you grow to hate it. I hated it by the end, all the fun had been sucked out of it.
There were a lot of pieces which all added up to me stopping in the end, I just didn't care any longer, and even now, I'll avoid it if I can.

Also, have you noticed that I rarely post any pictures on here? Well, that is the reason.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

http://www.pbiz.co.uk/index.php/photographers-rights

Thanks.

 

[classic33]

I agree with the flash bit, what a horrible invention it can be at times!

Also, have you noticed that I rarely post any pictures on here? Well, that is the reason.

Maybe you don't have a camera anymore

Firing a flash can be distracting at best. At worst it can lead to someone getting hurt.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Maybe you don't have a camera anymore

I have a camera, a Canon 5D to be exact. I know I won't get my money's worth out of it now, I know that, but it is nice to have 'just in case', and I intend to have it for quite a long time to come. Before then I used a very battered second hand Hasselblad until it fell apart, quite litterally.

It will probably mean very little to me now, but what do you have?

Firing a flash can be distracting at best. At worst it can lead to someone getting hurt.

Yes, NEVER blind a train driver for example.

 

[swee'pea99]

It is absolutely to do with paedo-paranoia, and it's a pile of crap. My enjoyment of my kids' performances has never been affected one jot by proud parents taking photos. It's nonsense.

I got confronted one time by some hideous, self-righteous lemon-sucking old hag when I was videoing my kids in a paddling pool in the park. You could just feel the sanctimonious self-assurance radiating off the bitch as she took me to task, never for a moment pausing to wonder what exactly gave her the right to all but accuse a complete stranger of being a sinister paedophile. It's all part of a moral climate that lost touch with reality some time ago, whipped up by a cynical and self-serving media. Any school that bans parents from taking pictures at sports day needs to get out more.

 

[Norm]

Is it inappropriate behaviour to blanket-ban people taking photos of their own kids in the school play or sports day or prize-giving? Yes, that is wholly inappropriate, IMO.

Is it inappropriate behaviour for someone to ruin the performance for everyone else by partaking in a "my flash is brighter than yours" contest? Yes, that is also wholly inappropriate, IMO.

Is it inappropriate behaviour for schools to bring the fear of H&S or paedos into the discussions about photography, just because they haven't got the backbone to say "taking photos is ok but don't ruin it for everyone else"? Yes, I think that is the most inappropriate and, indeed, despicable behaviour of all.

 

[marzjennings]

[quote="Matthew_T, post: 1915964, member: 17087"
When the performance was over and we started to leave, I said to the woman "I hope you are going to delete those pictures". She turned around and looked at me with a face of surprise as I walked away with an angry face on me. I was not happy at all.
[/quote]
So was the inappropriate behaviours yours or the women's, because from what I can you put managed to face in where it wasn't wanted. You seem to have a knack for this.

Careful, 'cos one day someone will lamp you for sticking your nose in where it's not wanted.

 

[YahudaMoon]

Cameras are certainly getting smarter, check this 5D extras

Some guy on the last Manchester critical mass bike ride had a Nikon D700 mounted on the handle bars of his bike :/

Some people really get bent out of shape with such nonsense like people taking phoctographs ! ?

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I got confronted one time by some hideous, self-righteous lemon-sucking old hag when I was videoing my kids in a paddling pool in the park. You could just feel the sanctimonious self-assurance radiating off the bitch as she took me to task, never for a moment pausing to wonder what exactly gave her the right to all but accuse a complete stranger of being a sinister paedophile. It's all part of a moral climate that lost touch with reality some time ago, whipped up by a cynical and self-serving media. Any school that bans parents from taking pictures at sports day needs to get out more.

It reminds me of something I saw on the breakfast news once. They were doing some feature on kids playgrounds and they were at somewhere in Bournemouth or similar.
The local parents had arranged to take groups of kids to the park regularly as if the kids needed an armed escort. They were interviewing the person in charge, (think of someone the same as in the post above) and she came away with probably the best quote I have ever heard, which to me sums the whole thing up. She said

'Oh well, of course, the number of Peaodophiles is on the increase, so we..... blah blah blah'

I wanted to ask her at what rate was this increase happening? How many people a year are turning into peado's? How long will it be before EVERYONE is a Peado, including herself and her darling kids?

I'm surprised she didn't attack the film crew for having..... having.... CAMERAS!!

Yep, some people have the Peadofear really badly!

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Incidentally, I have just noticed the typo in the thread title.

Is it actually reference to people blindly following the rules?

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Both the schools our kids have been to haven't had any of this no photos nonsense, my only problem with cameras at school performances is that everyone had a fancier camera than me, some of them had lenses big enough that you could have photographed stuff in another galaxy, show-off swines!

 

[Red Light]

Yep, some people have the Peadofear really badly!

And the irony is that stranger danger is massively lower than family & friends danger.