Illegal overtake on a pedestrian crossing?

[Number14]

Approaching a pedestrian crossing and there's a queue of traffic. Mr Motorist has stopped and left the crossing clear even though his front wheels are over the line (tut tut).

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]View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0dDFfrl0ws[/media]


I stop alongside him because:


191
You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.


[Laws ZPPPCRGD regs 18, 20 & 24, RTRA sect 25(5) & TSRGD regs 10, 27 & 28]

However, beacuse there were no pedestrians on the crossing and it was chuffing I set off again to turn right at the roundabout.

Was it legal?

 

[Chutzpah]

Why would it be illegal? He's stationary in traffic.

That excerpt from the Highway Code refers to a vehicle that is in motion, or that is stationary because someone is crossing.

 

[Greenflash]

Perfectly legal move.

 

[thomas]

That really wasn't something to worry about Don't think so hard when cycling

 

[CopperBrompton]

Legal because he is neither moving nor has he stopped to accord precedence to a pedestrian.

 

[ufkacbln]

Also a difficult road design as the entry to the crossing appears to be one lane and the exit two!

It would be difficult to define where overtaking and taking the lane diverge

 

[atbman]

It looks fairly obvious that he stopped in that position because the roadspace behind the car in front of him wasn't long enough for a car to use without leaving his rear end over the crossing. Excellent driving IMHO. You, on the other hand, had clear road in front of you. So, no, you didn't do anything illegal.

 

[Eoin Rua]

Hope you didn't lose any sleep over thinking about that...

 

[gaz]

When does filtering become overtaking?
rule 191 doesn't just apply to zebra crossings, but applies to any pedestrian crossing.
And if you look at it from a certain angle, then filtering into the ASL at a pedestrian crossing could be considered against the law.

 

[DrSquirrel]

When does filtering become overtaking?
rule 191 doesn't just apply to zebra crossings, but applies to any pedestrian crossing.
And if you look at it from a certain angle, then filtering into the ASL at a pedestrian crossing could be considered against the law.

There is some pedantry somewhere that might suggest you are required to use the cycle lane (if exists) to enter the ASL as not to cross the first solid line.

My personal opinion of the video - it would be perfectly fine to proceed as the crossing was clear.

I do think waiting besides the car is not a good thing to do.

 

[400bhp]

Hope you didn't lose any sleep over thinking about that...

agree

 

[ufkacbln]

There is some pedantry somewhere that might suggest you are required to use the cycle lane (if exists) to enter the ASL as not to cross the first solid line.

Yep - the first line is the "Stop" line, and crossing it whilst the lights are red is strictly "failing to stop". Entering via a feeder lane is how cycles are exempted from this.

 

[atbman]

Yep - the first line is the "Stop" line, and crossing it whilst the lights are red is strictly "failing to stop". Entering via a feeder lane is how cycles are exempted from this.

What ASL? The driver was stopped at an ordinary pedestrian crossing, IMO, because he couldn't stop behind the vehicle in front without impeding the crossing. The OP was going to turn right at a roundabout - no ASL. The OP stopped, clearly checked to see if the driver was waiting for a pedestrian, saw that there wasn't and set off. He did this at the same time the cars in the LH lane were also setting off as did the car.

 

[Crankarm]

If this is all that happens on your rides then be grateful ......... Maybe you have too much time on your hands .

 

[on the road]

He only stopped on the line big deal at least he didn't stop ON the zebra crossing, a lot of motorists do that and it's so annoying. I'd rather they'd stop on the line rather then stop on the crossing and block it completely.