ideas for nutrition please?

[Shaun]

You're all entitled to an opinion but going out of your way to wind each other up is not helpful or useful; neither is going wildly off-topic or dismissing someone's eating issues out of hand.

Please keep it civil and constructive. I won't ask again.

Thanks,
Shaun

 

[Rob3rt]

fossala, many/most mental health problems/disorders are at least partially attributable to the society in which we live. But the cause doesn't negate the reality of the issue.

Furthermore many cases in our society are also only diagnosed because we live in a society with accessible medical care and in which knowledge and care have progressed hugely in recent decades. 50-100 years ago, these problems still existed (probably less so, for many social and economic reasons), but if you told anyone of your concerns or if anyone noticed your behavior you likely be branded as a lunatic and treated like a criminal or societal outcast and incarcerated in an asylum and then treat like shoot. So quite obviously, people wouldn't speak out about their issues.

Regardless of the "cause" of a mental health issue or disorder, it is still a legitimate issue that needs treatment, not being told to man up, grow up or whatever ignorant bullshit you wish to spout.

 

[fossala]

You're all entitled to an opinion but going out of your way to wind each other up is not helpful or useful; neither is going wildly off-topic or dismissing someone's eating issues out of hand.

Please keep it civil and constructive. I won't ask again.

Thanks,
Shaun

I was civil and constructive. I never used bad or insulting language. The only correct statement you said was that I was a bit off topic in replying to someone's gripe with a comment I made that was on topic.

 

[fossala]

fossala, many/most mental health problems/disorders are at least partially attributable to the society in which we live. But the cause doesn't negate the reality of the issue.

Furthermore many are also only diagnosed because we live in a society with accessible medical care and in which knowledge and care have progressed hugely in recent decades. 50-100 years ago, these problems still existed (probably less so, for many social and economic reasons), but if you told anyone or if anyone noticed you would be branded as a lunatic and treated like a criminal and incarcerated in an asylum and then treat like s***.

Regardless of the "cause" of a mental disorder, it is still a legitimate issue that needs treatment, not being told to man up, grow up or whatever ignorance bullshit you will to spout.

The problem that needs to be addressed is society then. Stop fast food and crap being put in front of us from young ages. Teach children how too cook, hell teach parents!

 

[Rob3rt]

The problem that needs to be addressed is society then. Stop fast food and crap being put in front of us from young ages. Teach children how too cook, hell teach parents!

You do realise that even if you address the societal issues (preventative), you still need to treat those individuals who are suffering (restorative) also?

 

[Shaun]

The problem that needs to be addressed is society then. Stop fast food and crap being put in front of us from young ages. Teach children how too cook, hell teach parents!

Which would probably make a very interesting thread - but on this thread we're trying to offer advice to an individual to try and help him achieve a more healthy/balanced diet.

 

[ColinJ]

It is relevant, have people in Africa that don't have a lot of food have these conditions. It makes me think it is self imposed.

Well, your average British woman doesn't murder her teenage brother because she believes him to be a witch so by your logic that belief must be 'self imposed' too, but I suggest that you don't go to one of their villages and start telling them how stupid they are for believing in black magic!

 

[fossala]

You do realise that even if you address the societal issues (preventative), you still need to treat those individuals who are suffering (restorative) also?

Last comment on the topic so I don't get told off.

I think that there is a small handful that "can't" eat fruit and veg. I think the majority of people are picky. Same with overweight people, I think the majority choose too eat ridiculous amounts and not exercise then get gastric bypasses on the NHS or roll around in a mobility scooter, rather than them having a medical condition.

 

[Shaun]

I think that there is a small handful that "can't" eat fruit and veg. I think the majority of people are picky. Same with overweight people, I think the majority choose too eat ridiculous amounts and not exercise then get gastric bypasses on the NHS or roll around in a mobility scooter, rather than them having a medical condition.

Quite. But the OP is obviously looking to try and address his weight problem and it would be good if we could be supportive and encouraging.

You might want to start a thread in the Current Affairs forum about food in the modern society - I think you'll find a wide range of opinions and experiences and it'll make for an interesting thread.

Cheers,
Shaun

 

[fossala]

Quite. But the OP is obviously looking to try and address his weight problem and it would be good if we could be supportive and encouraging.

Your right, I got so involved in my "rant" that I forgot that the OP was trying to change. My apologies OP and good luck.

 

[gb155]

Last comment on the topic so I don't get told off.

I think that there is a small handful that "can't" eat fruit and veg. I think the majority of people are picky. Same with overweight people, I think the majority choose too eat ridiculous amounts and not exercise then get gastric bypasses on the NHS or roll around in a mobility scooter, rather than them having a medical condition.

No body ever chose to have a, mental health issue!

 

[Shaun]

Raging Squirrel has has some good advice so let's close the thread now and let him take it from here. I'm sure he'll report back in a new thread if he manages to make some progress.

Cheers,
Shaun