I need something, some sort of supplement ?

[gb155]

As some of you might know , I have SED

It means basically I eat crisps & jelly type sweets (think Haribos) and that's your lot.

Now my eating disorder is something I am working though, tho it has been a quite week, but I digress.

I ride approx 30 miles per day, 6 days a week,minimum of 16 Mph average, with climbing, I no longer do this to lose weight, I do it because I like it, because its my way of dealing with the stresses of the real world.

but in the last couple of weeks I have noticed the strain of not eating the right things and my body not being able to compensate by burning fat really catch up with me.

I now eat around 1800 calories a day, I take a multibonta multi-vit in the morning , what else can I do to shake this feeling of URGH and exhaustion off ?

 

[Steve H]

Here's a few suggestions:

• Take a week off. You've been full on with cycling for quite some time, maybe your body just needs to take a bit of a break.
• Try something a bit different. I went mountain biking last night after being road riding for a fair few months. It uses similar muscles, but there was a real buzz of riding over some rough, technical stuff. Gave me a real buzz. Took a couple of small tumbles which wakes you up and makes you concentrate harder.
• Keep trying the new foods. I know this is tough, but it will make a big difference.
• Plenty of sex!

 

[photography27]

hi, i will say i use these creatine

i have been using these for a week now, i can see my muscles changing, and taking shape, i have loads of pwer and energy and strength, i would advise to drink loads of water with them, the idea of these is they take water from your body and puts it in the muscles, so you need to replenish your water.

some peoplewillsay not to use them, but my avg speed is up 3/5 mph, i aint out of breath on my hills.

alwas eat healthy aswell.

 

[Becs]

It sounds like your diet is v low in protein, which won't help your muscle function. It might be worth trying something high in leucine - whey protein is a common source, and to a lesser extent, milk. The breakdown products of leucine inhibit muscle catabolism (break down) leading to a net gain in/preservation of muscle mass. If you are only eating 1800 calories a day you are still eating a lot less than you use so this sort of protein supplement might be v beneficial (no side effects have been reported in clinical trials) and it may help bridge the gap while you sort your diet out. Definitely keep up the multivitamins and make sure they have plenty of iron in, and if you're feeling really rough then rest, sounds like you've earned it!

 

[gb155]

Here's a few suggestions:

• Take a week off. You've been full on with cycling for quite some time, maybe your body just needs to take a bit of a break.
• Try something a bit different. I went mountain biking last night after being road riding for a fair few months. It uses similar muscles, but there was a real buzz of riding over some rough, technical stuff. Gave me a real buzz. Took a couple of small tumbles which wakes you up and makes you concentrate harder.
• Keep trying the new foods. I know this is tough, but it will make a big difference.
• Plenty of sex!

Thanks for the suggestions

Taking a rest isnt an option, I have too much to lose & am enjoying myself wayyyy too much :-)

Sadly the new officers we moved into this week dont have a shower, you gotta change in the loos (good old local authority) so while I could off road at our old officers, I cant really at the new ones.

Food, I am plugging away, just need to find something to help till I cracked it

Sex ? Steve , your not my type LOL

 

[gb155]

hi, i will say i use these creatine

i have been using these for a week now, i can see my muscles changing, and taking shape, i have loads of pwer and energy and strength, i would advise to drink loads of water with them, the idea of these is they take water from your body and puts it in the muscles, so you need to replenish your water.

some peoplewillsay not to use them, but my avg speed is up 3/5 mph, i aint out of breath on my hills.

alwas eat healthy aswell.

Sounds good, will look into it , Thanks

 

[gb155]

It sounds like your diet is v low in protein, which won't help your muscle function. It might be worth trying something high in leucine - whey protein is a common source, and to a lesser extent, milk. The breakdown products of leucine inhibit muscle catabolism (break down) leading to a net gain in/preservation of muscle mass. If you are only eating 1800 calories a day you are still eating a lot less than you use so this sort of protein supplement might be v beneficial (no side effects have been reported in clinical trials) and it may help bridge the gap while you sort your diet out. Definitely keep up the multivitamins and make sure they have plenty of iron in, and if you're feeling really rough then rest, sounds like you've earned it!

My whole life I have drunk milk, 4 Pints a day it used to be, but approx a year ago, I stopped, I heard Dairy is bad for weight loss.

Yesterday after my commute I consumed about 3 pints ( not all at once but over the course of the evening), I forgot how much I love that stuff. Today I actually feel better than I have for a long long time.

and the scales did not indicate any type of gain either.....

 

[gb155]

18 miles ,1000 ft of climbing , averaged 17mph, feel much much better, milk is my epo

 

[fimm]

I suspect you could still eat more calories, if you are not trying to loose any more weight. 1800 is not a lot for a active male.

I have a couple of suggestions. One has been mentioned already - whey protien. You can get it in big tubs in places like Holland and Barrett. I usually take it whisked into water, but my boyfriend prefers his in milk. If you use skimmed or semi-skimmed milk, there isn't so much fat.

My other suggestion is that you have a think about your calories in and out. Remember your are not an obese person any more, you are an ordinary, active person. You do need to fuel your activity properly! I've been using this site:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
- not obsessively, but just to keep an eye on how much I've eaten against how much exercise I've done.

Note: I have no expertise in this area, apart from having read a couple of books on sports nutrition! My interest comes from the fact that I do quite a lot of training for triathlons and so am interested in eating properly.
Edited to add: I do appreciate that your SED doesn't help, but it does sound as if you feel you are making progress with that, which is good news :-)

Hope some of that is of some help.

 

[Banjo]

If you can do milk I wonder if you would be ok on milky porridge. The oats definitely give you a long lasting energy release. I put a bit of honey in to improve the taste and give a bit more energy.

 

[Boyfrom64]

+ 1 on the milky porridge.

I find adding honey, jam, banana or dried fruit to my porridge to be really good at giving me a good slow release of energy.

gb155, I too like to drink milk as I find it a good food source after a run or ride. I wish you all the best with your eating disorder, having watched your video I think what you have achieved is such a fantastic achievement you should be extremely proud.

 

[MLC]

30m ride at 16mph avg with climbing must mean that you are burning in the region of 750-1,000 calories. If you already limit yourself to 1,800 calories I am surprised you haven't keeled over already. You will be doing yourself more harm than good

You need slow release complex carbohydrates, wholemeal bread, rice pasta and potatoes also fruit and Veg and protein Chicken to balance.

Creatine supplements, whey protein all help as well but you must base it off a good balanced diet.

Chocolate skimmed milk is an excellent recovery drink !

Please a get a good sports nutrition book out of the library or off amazon. I think there is one by Chris Carmichael food for fitness ?? although its tailored for a triathlete it is a good base

 

[Zoiders]

I suspect you could still eat more calories, if you are not trying to loose any more weight. 1800 is not a lot for a active male.

What he said.

I have seen some shockingly low expectations of what calorie intake should be on this board, if you are a fairly large and very active chap you can do 3000+ in a day easy.

 

[MLC]

What he said.

I have seen some shockingly low expectations of what calorie intake should be on this board, if you are a fairly large and very active chap you can do 3000+ in a day easy.

+1

On the cycling days reckon your knocking north of 3.5-4k calorie requirement just to maintain your current weight.

1800 calories is way to few for you, to the point of being dangerous.

Seriously I would have a word with your Dr and see if they can refer you to a nutrionist.

 

[srw]

I'm on (i.e. counting) 2100 calories a day at the moment and doing much less exercise than you. After months of what I thought was about 2500 but in retrospect was probably on average closer to 1800 (i.e. not counting) I was feeling hideously lethargic, and had lost no weight at all. Eating more helped the lethargy a hell of a lot, and, guess what - I've begun losing weight. Only a pound or so a week so far, but it's certainly come off. I've noticeably lost bulk round the waist, too, even in a very few weeks.

I'm also performing a lot better physically - my PT has a gym workout (1500m row, 4km bike, 1 mile run) he subjects me to every so often. Previously I'd been stuck, shaving a handful of seconds off my time. This week I knocked 50 seconds off my previous best. For an exercise that lasts not much more than 20 minutes that's a hell of a lot. And I did it with a very full stomach, only an hour after a large lunch. Admittedly it was a large lunch of brown rice and grilled chicken, but it was a very large lunch.

With regard to milk - don't believe everything you've read. Milk is a very good source of protein, and skimmed milk is more-or-less fat free. A pint is about 200 calories. Unless you're intolerant (and you're probably not) it's a good drink, especially for someone who doesn't eat a great variety of food.

Only you and a nutritionist can tackle your SED, and I wouldn't pretend to offer advice on that.