hoover/ dust extractor advice

[Profpointy]

I am after a replacement dust extractor/hoover for domestic and DIY use ie one of those units where you plug the hose into a sander or router and the tool cable into the hoover so it fires up when you start the tool.

My current one is. Festool, and it's never been than much cop frankly, and was poorer as a hoover than the lesser brand (without the power on feature) tradesman's hoover I had.

Needs to be mains powered, not excessively noisy or big as I will also use it as a hoover, and must have a fitting for coiling up the cable, and ideally a place to stash the brushes and such.

I'm a Festool fanboy generally but not sure I would get another hoover from them as this one has been disapointing, both in terms of suckyness, and that the black plastic top bit has broken. That said, not wholly ruling it out.

I may consider a suitable tradesman's hoover without the auto power on feature

Thoughts anyone?

 

[CAESAR AVGVSTVS]

I’m in the same boat, my Festool 110v was good, but I need to go cordless with my next one.
I think I’m going to buy a Dewalt cordless, M class extractor. You can get a blue tooth wrist band to turn it on and off.

 

[slowmotion]

I would get a Numatic Henry and a separate "auto-on" socket gizmo.

Henrys suck!

Edit: Choose a Henry with the most powerful motor you can find.

 

[slowmotion]

There are lots of clips on YouTube about vacuum-on switches. This one is quite good...

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]View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5kpKMX_Vw[/media]

 

[Alex321]

I am after a replacement dust extractor/hoover for domestic and DIY use ie one of those units where you plug the hose into a sander or router and the tool cable into the hoover so it fires up when you start the tool.

My current one is. Festool, and it's never been than much cop frankly, and was poorer as a hoover than the lesser brand (without the power on feature) tradesman's hoover I had.

Needs to be mains powered, not excessively noisy or big as I will also use it as a hoover, and must have a fitting for coiling up the cable, and ideally a place to stash the brushes and such.

I'm a Festool fanboy generally but not sure I would get another hoover from them as this one has been disapointing, both in terms of suckyness, and that the black plastic top bit has broken. That said, not wholly ruling it out.

I may consider a suitable tradesman's hoover without the auto power on feature

Thoughts anyone?

Well you can't get a hover from Festool, because they aren't Hoover

I know the brand name tends to be used as a generic term for household vacuum cleaners, but that isn't what you want. A dust extractor is quite different to a household vacuum cleaner.

There are a few decent brands, but I've always thought Festool were one of them (if a little overpriced), so I'm a little surprised you found yours poor.

Sorry, I don'rt really have any recommendations, I'm currently thinking of getting one myself.

 

[Drago]

I would get a Numatic Henry and a separate "auto-on" socket gizmo.

Henrys suck!

Edit: Choose a Henry with the most powerful motor you can find.

I got a new Hetty for £30. For those that don't know a Hetty is nothing more than a pink Henry.

Hetty hadn't been selling because ruffly tufty tradesmen didn't want a pink vacuum cleaner. I'm secure enough with my masculinity not to be bothered and was happy to save over a one-er at the time.

It does indeed suck.

 

[Profpointy]

Well you can't get a hover from Festool, because they aren't Hoover

I know the brand name tends to be used as a generic term for household vacuum cleaners, but that isn't what you want. A dust extractor is quite different to a household vacuum cleaner.

There are a few decent brands, but I've always thought Festool were one of them (if a little overpriced), so I'm a little surprised you found yours poor.

Sorry, I don'rt really have any recommendations, I'm currently thinking of getting one myself.

A pal used to work for Dyson and it was a major faux pas if you uttered the word "hoover" at work

 

[Alex321]

A pal used to work for Dyson and it was a major faux pas if you uttered the word "hoover" at work

I bet it was

I worked for Hoover for two years. Vacuum cleaners nowadays are only a small part of the brand. They are mainly white goods manufacturers now. And shortly before I left, became owned by Haier.

 

[stephec]

I got a new Hetty for £30. For those that don't know a Hetty is nothing more than a pink Henry.

Hetty hadn't been selling because ruffly tufty tradesmen didn't want a pink vacuum cleaner. I'm secure enough with my masculinity not to be bothered and was happy to save over a one-er at the time.

It does indeed suck.

I can see this ending up in your agony column.

 

[slowmotion]

I'm pretty sure that this current-sensing relay can be used to measure your tool current and to switch on and off a vacuum extractor when a pre-selected tool current is exceeded, complete with a timed overrun. It's an absolute steal at £6.99 on Ebay. I bought one anyway but have not had time to tinker around with it yet.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20457768...tWclBvhqlTajPNzhUUA/CiyA==|tkp:Bk9SR6bz56-bZA

It's a Relpol RPN-1A16-A230 . You can find the user guide here...

www.relpol.pl/instructions

 

[MontyVeda]

I am after a replacement dust extractor/hoover for domestic and DIY use ie one of those units where you plug the hose into a sander or router and the tool cable into the hoover so it fires up when you start the tool.

My current one is. Festool, and it's never been than much cop frankly, and was poorer as a hoover than the lesser brand (without the power on feature) tradesman's hoover I had.

Needs to be mains powered, not excessively noisy or big as I will also use it as a hoover, and must have a fitting for coiling up the cable, and ideally a place to stash the brushes and such.

I'm a Festool fanboy generally but not sure I would get another hoover from them as this one has been disapointing, both in terms of suckyness, and that the black plastic top bit has broken. That said, not wholly ruling it out.

I may consider a suitable tradesman's hoover without the auto power on feature

Thoughts anyone?

My dust extraction is any old hoover in combination with a dust collection bucket...

Barely any dust reaches the bag in the hoover which means it doesn't get clogged and subsequently overheat. I'd recommend something similar even if using a proper shop vac.

 

[MontyVeda]

There are lots of clips on YouTube about vacuum-on switches. This one is quite good...

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]View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5kpKMX_Vw[/media]

very apt that the hacks at the end involve an old inner tube

 

[newts]

I upgraded to M class due to H&S requirements back 2020, I bought the Festool CTM midi (tubes & brushes fit in a systainer on top) & it is very good. You do have to turn the suction down & use the correct adaptor for sanding. My old ctl mini & track saw sold on for £250 after 20 years of use. I see most of the trade rated stuff in use on my travels, the Festool is more popular by far.

 

[MontyVeda]

just bagged an Intelli-plug off of Ebay for £2.50 + postage

 

[si_c]

I'm using a Titan from Screwfix - cost about £70 or so earlier this year and has the autopower on feature which I use quite happily with my sander and saws.

I've not no way of comparing to a Festool unit as I've never used one, but it works well enough for me and certainly makes a difference when sanding.

Useful additional features are that it's fully wet-dry capable and also has a blower function. Airflow is a little low compared to dedicated dust extraction tools at about 100CFM but you can roll it around and it comes with basic hoover-like tools and cleans up well.

One thing to note is that I do use a bag with it although it's not required as my garage is quite small and although the filter works well enough the bag does reduce the amount of dust that gets into the air.