Homeopathy - any good?

[ColinJ]

my best friend went to a homeopath with a persitant cough. homeoath diagnosed selenium deficiency and prescribed pills and diet changes. Despite cynicism from friends he followed the advice.

a few months later on emergency admission at a&e he was diagnosed with stage 4 bowel cancer with secondaries on lung and liver. he was dead 9 months later.

There was an awful example of that kind of thing here in the 1990s - link.

 

[Herzog]

I understand (not believe) how water is supposed to 'remember' exposure to toxins/bacteria/viruses etc., the fundamental premise of homeopathy, but nobody has quite managed to explain how water manages to forget these exposures once it re-enters the water cycle and becomes available again for subsequent exposure...

I used a chinese doctor to treat my acute exzema in my 20's at the suggestion of my hospital doctor. Nothing else had worked in calming down the flare ups which would hospitalise me, so they could apply cold tar bandages on my arms and legs.
This chinese doctor gave me a fist size bundle of herbs to boil in water and drink the cup full of "black tea" after it had then simmered for an hour. Tasted disgusting, and i took it for a year.

My eczema is 90% better, and the 10% i do get is more my drinking, and crap food on occasions.

So for me homeopathy DOES work

Regression to the mean...?

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

There was an awful example of that kind of thing here in the 1990s - link.

WTF?!!!!

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

The 'medicines' are almost certainly useless, but the talking side of it, each consultation lasts 30 minutes or so, is as good as CBT. I've tried both for my depression and anxiety.

Homeopath = proven to be fake and nonsense and requires no formal training...

CBT = years of training, clinical supervision and formal qualifications. Is proven beyond doubt scientifically to be a robust talking therapy for many many mental disorders.


Please do not ever try to lump me in with those slimey snake oil salesman again!...

 

[Globalti]

Doctors - and homeopaths - know that 95% of problems will resolve themselves anyway.

Take it easy and that muscle problem will sort itself out.

 

[User169]

2. People have DIED from taking strange herbs given to them by Chinese "doctors"

Shed loads of people have DIED taking every day medicaments prescribed to them by the orthodox medicate (see what I did there) profession.

 

[User169]

You need to be a little careful. There are preparations sold as homeopathic which clearly contain enough of an active ingredient to have some kind of effect. Not homeopathic in the strict sense, but they nevertheless have "homeopathic" on the packaging.

 

[jay clock]

+1 for a load of bollox

 

[ColinJ]

Really? In the UK? I'm surprised the college of homeopaths or whatever they call themselves haven't been protesting about these products being too strong.

I thought the remedies are supposed to get stronger as they are diluted more?

Anybody drinking distilled water should probably overdose and die on the spot!

 

[byegad]

Homeopath = proven to be fake and nonsense and requires no formal training...

CBT = years of training, clinical supervision and formal qualifications. Is proven beyond doubt scientifically to be a robust talking therapy for many many mental disorders.


Please do not ever try to lump me in with those slimey snake oil salesman again!...

I saw a slimey snake oil salesman for some time and he did me at least as much use as two courses of CBT. Trained he probably wasn't.

 

[ufkacbln]

The confounding factor in all of this is the well documented "Placebo efffect"

It could be suggested that an "alternative" healer listening to the patient, devoting time and attention, as well as reassurance has as much, if not greater effect then any medicine / drug that they give

 

[ColinJ]

The confounding factor in all of this is the well documented "Placebo efffect"

It could be suggested that an "alternative" healer listening to the patient, devoting time and attention, as well as reassurance has as much, if not greater effect then any medicine / drug that they give

*cough*

 

[surfdude]

i have a neighbour who buys bottled water from a homo doc down the road for £5 a bottle he gets from his garden spring . he reckons it comes from a glacier in Norway and is good for your health and can cure most things . i live in Cornwall . what a load of bull.

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Another vote for woo woo nonsense here.

 

[theclaud]

For anyone who'd like to ignore all these cynics and learn a little more about homeopathy, there's this handy website:

http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/