Holy cow ,Battery-man, are electro-bikes the future...?

[albion]

I'm not sure if you are being obtuse, but this technology means batteries will not wear out.

Blunt facts.
They charged it 200,000 times in 3 months telling us that they had 1 seconds worth of electricity per charge.

Also, the core is said to be gold.

 

[raleighnut]

Blunt facts.
They charged it 200,000 times in 3 months telling us that they had 1 seconds worth of electricity per charge.

Also, the core is said to be gold.

The technology has been found though, now they just need to scale it up to a production version.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Perhaps @Lee gg is already a strong cyclist.

If so, an ebike is a waste of time for him/her.

That makes being an obnoxious judgemental arse about people on them based on nothing more than a guesstimate of their age OK?


Anything that gets people onto bikes is good in my book, so what if a perfectly healthy person uses one, it is one more cyclist out there and a good chance that if healthy it may encourage them to branch out and explore the promised land of self powered cycling once they've realised they can do it with a bit of assist.

 

[albion]

The technology has been found though, now they just need to scale it up to a production version.

Just my NUGGET of information. Also, whilst they use the term battery, is it really a battery or more correctly, supercapacitor?
Chasing research/partnership funds, the term supercapacitor has been made to look dirt by Estore.

 

[Lee gg]

Because a motor bike is nothing like an ebike.

Nothing like a motor bike ?? Erm 2 wheel handlebar brakes not human powered shall I go on .?

 

[Profpointy]

Nothing like a motor bike ?? Erm 2 wheel handlebar brakes not human powered shall I go on .?

I agree. i wasn't being wholly facetious mentioning my 1000cc Trriumph. Electric or petrol or rocket powered - it's still a motorbike. You could have a Tesla superbike which would give my Triumph a run for its money; maybe show it a clean pair of heels. Or you could have a French style moped with the little engine on the front wheel which is on a par power wise to a e-bike - as are various pre-war petrol assisted bikes made by the old British makes - these all have pedals after all.

Tesla make electric cars which out accelerate Porches - are they somehow not motorcars because the engine doesn't run on petrol?

 

[Pale Rider]

Nothing like a motor bike ?? Erm 2 wheel handlebar brakes not human powered shall I go on .?

What part of 'no throttle so you have to pedal' do you not understand?

You clearly know nothing about ebikes, yet post as if you know all about them and call users 'cheats'.

Clearly your closed mind is made up.

Fine, but your attempts to mislead others by your ignorance do need a bit of correction.

 

[Pale Rider]

Or you could have a French style moped with the little engine on the front wheel which is on a par power wise to a e-bike

The French - and English equivalent - motorised bicycles had a lot more power than a modern legal ebike.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Blunt facts.
They charged it 200,000 times in 3 months telling us that they had 1 seconds worth of electricity per charge.
Also, the core is said to be gold.

These 'facts' are too blunt for me.
If there are 91 days in three months I find it a challenge to imagine 'charging' the battery 2000+ times a day so not quite sure what is meant.

As for the gold, if a battery has gold in it, is that a good or bad thing? Not sure the point you wished to make. Still seems to be at the experimental stage. Paraphrased, amalgamated articles:
Various scientists ave been experimenting in the use of gold to make a prototype of a lithium air battery that has high energy density and lasts for a long time.
In a typical lithium ion battery, lithium ions travel from the cathode to the anode when you charge it (through the electrolyte), and the anode holds onto the lithium ions to store the energy. After a certain number of charges the structure of the battery starts to degrade. But using gold to make a porous electrode can create a lithium air battery that maintains almost all of its ability to hold a charge after 100 charging cycles - it provides a more stable substrate for the reaction between the air and the lithium. Their gold electrode also has tiny holes all over it — nano-porous — that provides room for the ions from the solid lithium peroxide. The scientists say more work needs to be done to figure out why the experimental battery is providing such a high level of capacity and density.
Other latest battery technology being experimented with uses a gold nanowire, no thicker than a bacterium, coated in manganese oxide and then protected by a layer of electrolyte gel. The gel interacts with the metal oxide coating to prevent corrosion. Even though minuscule amounts of gold are being used in this experiment, that would still make these batteries expensive to manufacture. Possibly a more common metal, like nickel, could replace the gold if the technology catches on. Future work will entail actually building batteries with this technology, and further investigating why the process works.

 

[albion]

Reading up, you do not need imagination.
I questioned whether it was a standard battery because the device had no anode, thus my question whether it is a 'battery'.
And they simply used 2 of their nanowire thingies to pass the charge from one nanowire cathode into the other nanowire cathode. Flip-flopping, I guess at a set discharge voltage.

Here is the base report with no claims on it being a supercapicitor or standard battery either. Some are now calling it a supercapicitor battery.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsenergylett.6b00029

 

[albion]

Here is a supposed 'here now' one, TÜV tested too, production costs said to be 25% of lithium and 400% the capacity, though using graphene I am a little dubious about cost and production capacity.
http://blog.evandmore.com/production-of-revolutionary-graphene-batteries-begins-in-spain/
http://grabat.es/

If true!!!!, and production is really here, to be scaled up on receipt of investment funds/grants maybe. then smartphone batteries and bikes should be first to see the 4 fold capacity benefit and more instant charging of graphene.
What is a little puzzling is that there is their bike battery shown but no smartphone battery. I would willingly send a cheque for a better battery for my phone.

 

[albion]

Another red flag on that. The certification is said to be a safety certificate, the production, the costs and end product energy capacity already look well bogus.

 

[0lonerider]

This is my friends he gave me a go and I did a fifty mile round trip to hexham on and still had plenty power left when I returned it

 

[Guyincognito76]

I live in a seaside resort so I see hundreds of them over the summer, mostly hired. I can't stand the bloody things: it's pointless. It's middle aged people who are too lazy to walk. It's like the scourge of the mobility-scooter, where once they were the sole preserve of the infirmed they are now embraced by the lethargic masses.

I never have any trouble passing them as no one ever seems to pedal, as they think they're on Space Mountain or something. I'm sure they believe they're doing something healthy.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

I live in a seaside resort so I see hundreds of them over the summer, mostly hired. I can't stand the bloody things: it's pointless. It's middle aged people who are too lazy to walk. It's like the scourge of the mobility-scooter, where once they were the sole preserve of the infirmed they are now embraced by the lethargic masses.

I never have any trouble passing them as no one ever seems to pedal, as they think they're on Space Mountain or something. I'm sure they believe they're doing something healthy.

A very different context there, I sincerely doubt the lethargic masses are dashing home from their hols ditching whatever pedal bike lives in the shed and replacing it with an ebike.

But if they did and it got them out more on bikes then good

Also why wouldn't you be passing dawdling, off duty, time not pressing holidaymakers with ease when going about your normal life? It'd be a worry if you weren't.

I've yet to see one in my little bit of the holidaymaker free edge of the Pennines or the very occasional one parked up in Manchester city centre. I don't think we have to worry just yet that the LBS will be scrapping pedal only powered bikes.