Hi-Viz / reflective - pros & cons.

[newfhouse]

Technically black is not a colour.

Technically, black is cool.

 

[newfhouse]

If people disagree with that they are in denial and there is no point in discussing it with them.

This is of course only a starting point in the discussion.

Doesn't strike me as much of a starting point.

 

[steveindenmark]

Technically, black is cool.

You should tell that to the woman in black who walks her black dog a 5 am in a village near me.

If she carries on doing it she will be so cool. In a fridge.

I cant understand people who put vanity before safety.

Its a starting point because people may agree that someone in a viz vest will be seen first. But they may have other reasons why they refuse to wear on.

 

[newfhouse]

You should tell that to the woman in black who walks her black dog a 5 am in a village near me.

If she carries on doing it she will be so cool. In a fridge.

You sound a bit like the people in the helmet thread who appear to wish ill on non helmeted riders and say they've got it coming to them. I hope I've misunderstood your tone.

What colour would you like the dog to be?

 

[classic33]

You should tell that to the woman in black who walks her black dog a 5 am in a village near me.

If she carries on doing it she will be so cool. In a fridge.

I cant understand people who put vanity before safety.

Its a starting point because people may agree that someone in a viz vest will be seen first. But they may have other reasons why they refuse to wear on.

The UV light required for Hi-Vis to work properly isn't there at night or under artificial lighting.
At night the reflective strips fitted are relied on more, for detection by the eye.

 

[steveindenmark]

Wear black if you want. I really dont care. Wear a helmet if you want, its your head.

 

[Accy cyclist]

It makes no difference what you wear, If the driver does not see you they don't see you, I know this because my wife was lit up like a christmas tree and still got hit,
Hi viz helmet, Hi viz jacket Hi viz shoes flashing arm bands, a good flashing front light one of the biggest flashing rear lights. There was no more room on her for anything else hi vis. The ******* idiot women driver in her 4x4 still managed to knock my wife of. So in my eyes Hi vis is a complete wast of money. If they are not looking they ain't going to see you.

Yes but what if they are looking but they can't/don't see you because you're wearing clothes the same colour as the road. I always look out for cyclists but if they make themselves hard to see then it could result in a collision.

 

[biggs682]

Anything that helps you be seen cant be bad

 

[Accy cyclist]

If you cannot see a person on the road, are you fit to drive?

So you have to be able to make out hard to see objects or what might not be objects such as shadows etc,then pull out hoping that another hard to see object isn't coming your way? Why make life harder for yourself and that legally driving but not quite alert as they used to be driver?

 

[Accy cyclist]

Yes, that seems a reasonable standard to demand of people taking to our roads in any powered vehicle.

Well demand all you like,but many drivers aren't capable of analysing everything on the road as they go along.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Imagine someone on a bike coming at you wearing that jacket in those conditions!"Oh it's right to pull out, nothing's coming".

 

[mjr]

If they can't see a six foot guy on a lit and reflectored bike because they're wearing the "wrong" coloured jacket, then no, they must be removed from motoring before they crash into a school or something.

 

[classic33]

Wear black if you want. I really dont care. Wear a helmet if you want, its your head.

Wearing Hi-Vis when hit. But I tend to rely on contrasting colours more than one bright colour that now seems to have become a fashion colour. Worn the following, in additition to a simple Saturn Yellow vest over the years. Also a Horse Rider's Sam Browne.

Non seemed to work as well as lighting, either on me or the bike. Best two lights, not fitted to the bike, were a glow stick and a strobe light, as seen on many alarm boxes. Visible from over two miles away, at night on unlit roads.

 

[derrick]

Yes but what if they are looking but they can't/don't see you because you're wearing clothes the same colour as the road. I always look out for cyclists but if they make themselves hard to see then it could result in a collision.

As said before if they are looking they will see you, if they are not looking they will hit you. simple.

 

[Accy cyclist]

No it is not all right. You can see the conditions are poor, so it is right to look more carefully.

But even then,careful looking and done with good intent might still mean the driver has trouble spotting the grey cyclist. Why not just wear something to make that driver's job a little easier? While the driver is analysing/looking carefully he's not looking elsewhere, which reduces his all round vision