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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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Fnaar said:
Yellow Subma-bloody-rine? :becool:
Ooer...I forgot Yellow Subma-bloody-rine was on it too. Oh well, the kids like it. Alltogethernow

we all live on a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine

we all live on a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine

we all live on a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine

we all live on a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine
a yellow submarine

go on, you know you love it really....:becool:
 

Fnaar

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(fingers in ears) la la la la la la la la la la
 
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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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Hey hey we're The Monkees
And people say we monkey around
But we're too busy singing
To get anybody down

Aah...they don't write lyrics like that anymore!
 
Problem with the Beatles is that they are generally placed by many to be in a league of their own above all other groups of their era.
Most people who hate them, hate them for this reason not because of their music.

It is difficult to find a group that produced that volume of output with a good percentage of quality work within the volume but I would say they cannot be put in a league of their own if you apply a song for song approach.

Example - Eleanor Rigby, yes it has something but I would go for Keith West's Excerpt from a teenage opera if you put them head to head.
The fact that Keith West did not have any other hits should not take anything away from what he did produce.
So just about any Beatles song can be matched by another artists work at least if not bettered.

Also, while it is widely known that towards the end the band members hardly had any input on each others work so a good chunk of the album was pure McCartney or pure Lennon, when each stepped out from under the Beatles halo they produced fairly low qulaity work (any decent Wings records?) so without the Beatles halo the work can be seen as equally low qulality.
 

Rhythm Thief

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Over The Hill said:
... Keith West's Excerpt from a teenage opera ...

Nooooo! Isn't that the appalling drivel about Grocer Jack? Complete with none - more - irritating heartstring - tugging childrens' choir? God forbid that I should ever hear that again.:wacko:
 

Abitrary

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swee said:
No. It is a crap song. Crap depressing lyrics and crap depressing pretentious music. Paul McCartney at his best.

Compare it to any single track from rubber soul, the greatest album ever confected by manhand. Compare the beauty to the dull.
 

Dave5N

Über Member
The white album is the beatles. ALternating great tracks from Lennon with shite ones from McCartney. Helter Skelter's alright though.

Frankly, it's all overrated. The STone Roses did it better.

And I'd rather listen to the Small Faces or the Pretty Things any day.
 
Rhythm Thief said:
Nooooo! Isn't that the appalling drivel about Grocer Jack? Complete with none - more - irritating heartstring - tugging childrens' choir? God forbid that I should ever hear that again.:angry:

Yes thats the one!

I dont disagree with what you say but it does a better job both music and lyrics than Eleanor Rigby.
Just really for each Beatles record you can find a better record that does whatever they are doing better.
 
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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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Over The Hill said:
Yes thats the one!

I dont disagree with what you say but it does a better job both music and lyrics than Eleanor Rigby.
Just really for each Beatles record you can find a better record that does whatever they are doing better.
Grocer Jack being an example? This is a wind-up, right?
 

Rhythm Thief

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[quote name='swee'pea99']Grocer Jack being an example? This is a wind-up, right?[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought. Grocer Jack really is rubbish, whereas Eleanor Rigby is not.
 
OK not the best expample then. I was really putting forward the point that "Grocer Jack" was a better song than Eleanor Rigby.
I would really not choose to listen to either as they are both sentemetal shite. But Eleanor Rigby really winds me up and is full of silly lyrics and a rather dull construction whereas "Grocer Jack" has a lot more novelty to it, actually moves the story along (Jack Dies) and the kids on it add to the piece and fit it very well.

My point was really that you can take any Beatles record and match or better it with another artist of the same era. Perhaps I have failed at this with my Grocer Jack suggestion.

OK if I have another go at it how about pitching it against Waterloo Sunset. The kinks win it for me.
 
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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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Over The Hill said:
moves the story along (Jack Dies)

Not for Jack then...

Over The Hill said:
how about pitching it against Waterloo Sunset. The kinks win it for me.

How is Eleanor Rigby in any way comparable with Waterloo Sunset? Isn't that a bit like saying pineapples are better than sausages?
 
swee said:
For breakfast or a Pizza topping???


Both the sort of record you may be tempted to put on after the beer has run out and you go on to the scotch instead of going to bed.
(Well that is about where I would pitch them) Both a bit sad and about lonely people excluded from society.

Dirty old river, must you keep rolling
Flowing into the night
People so busy, makes me feel dizzy
Taxi light shines so bright
But I don't need no friends
As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset
I am in paradise
Every day I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunset's fine
 

Rhythm Thief

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Music for me is pretty much a series of noises which do something for my senses. Both songs (and a good many more besides) work for me on that level, which is all I ask. I don't see any need to say one is better than the other.
 
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