Heart Rate Monitors

[bozmandb9]

Calories based on HR is a misnomer. No device capable of sensing HR can in any way accurately tell how many calories you have burned per hour/session/day/week etc.

It simply cannot be done..

So the metrics are distance covered, time, speed, elevation, with known height, weight, age, and heart rate, normal activity level, resting heart rate, estimated vo2 max, recovery time (plus knowledge of heart rate 24/7, and daily activity/ steps, workouts). So far as I'm aware, the only more accurate way is incorporating a power meter. Certainly it's less INaccurate than 99% of other methods out there! If there's a better way, I'd love to find out how?

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

So the metrics are distance covered, time, speed, elevation, with known height, weight, age, and heart rate, normal activity level, resting heart rate, estimated vo2 max, recovery time (plus knowledge of heart rate 24/7, and daily activity/ steps, workouts). So far as I'm aware, the only more accurate way is incorporating a power meter. Certainly it's less INaccurate than 99% of other methods out there! If there's a better way, I'd love to find out how?

A power meter is only good on the bike, what about the hours of day you aren't cycling? There isn't a better way, there is NO way.

None of your metrics provide accurate information in relation to caloric consumption, accurately.

 

[bozmandb9]

A power meter is only good on the bike, what about the hours of day you aren't cycling? There isn't a better way, there is NO way.

None of your metrics provide accurate information in relation to caloric consumption, accurately.

Of course not. Surely we're talking about calorie burn, not calorific consumption, which can be extremely easily and accurately tracked. A power meter provides the most exact measure of energy expenditure on the bike, this is not in any doubt. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but I am pretty certain that it in no way contributes towards helping the OP.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Of course not. Surely we're talking about calorie burn, not calorific consumption, which can be extremely easily and accurately tracked. A power meter provides the most exact measure of energy expenditure on the bike, this is not in any doubt. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but I am pretty certain that it in no way contributes towards helping the OP.

Yes, calorie burn, an error on my part. The OP wanted to measure calorie burn with an HRM, since this cannot be done, there is no "helping the OP" who hasn't returned to the forum since 21st Dec

 

[bozmandb9]

I saw this answer in a similar thread in a different forum : "Any measure of calorie burn is an approximation, but that doesn't change that it's worth having at least some measurement. No one's asking for perfection, just questioning what assumptions are made in the calculations"

I guess what it means is that if you're a pedant, and not interested in anything which has a possibility of error, then don't look for answers to this sort of question. Myself, accepting that there will be a margin of error, I'm very happy to use the Garmin figures, knowing they are based on time, distance, elevation, and heart rate, and factoring in my age weight and height, and also 'learning' more about me over time.

I do not expect the figures to be totally accurate in an absolute sense, however they will be in a relative sense (i.e. I can measure one session against any other session). Furthermore, accepting the margin for error, I would rather have approximate data, than no data.

Looking at some of the early answers, I'm not surprised that the OP didn't return.

 

[david k]

I saw this answer in a similar thread in a different forum : "Any measure of calorie burn is an approximation, but that doesn't change that it's worth having at least some measurement. No one's asking for perfection, just questioning what assumptions are made in the calculations"

I guess what it means is that if you're a pedant, and not interested in anything which has a possibility of error, then don't look for answers to this sort of question. Myself, accepting that there will be a margin of error, I'm very happy to use the Garmin figures, knowing they are based on time, distance, elevation, and heart rate, and factoring in my age weight and height, and also 'learning' more about me over time.

I do not expect the figures to be totally accurate in an absolute sense, however they will be in a relative sense (i.e. I can measure one session against any other session). Furthermore, accepting the margin for error, I would rather have approximate data, than no data.

Looking at some of the early answers, I'm not surprised that the OP didn't return.

Good post

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

I saw this answer in a similar thread in a different forum : "Any measure of calorie burn is an approximation, but that doesn't change that it's worth having at least some measurement. No one's asking for perfection, just questioning what assumptions are made in the calculations"

I guess what it means is that if you're a pedant, and not interested in anything which has a possibility of error, then don't look for answers to this sort of question. Myself, accepting that there will be a margin of error, I'm very happy to use the Garmin figures, knowing they are based on time, distance, elevation, and heart rate, and factoring in my age weight and height, and also 'learning' more about me over time.

I do not expect the figures to be totally accurate in an absolute sense, however they will be in a relative sense (i.e. I can measure one session against any other session). Furthermore, accepting the margin for error, I would rather have approximate data, than no data.

Looking at some of the early answers, I'm not surprised that the OP didn't return.

The OP didn't ask for an approximation, he asked for "accuracy" The answers he got, addressed the question.

If he had have asked for HRM recommendations then there would be a plethora of responses as such.

 

[martint235]

Supplementary question. I've not seen any mention of memory on these devices, do they only transmit real time data to a phone/app? Ideally I'll be looking at linking to my tablet once a day, is that feasible?

 

[PhilDawson8270]

I use the Microsoft Band, it's 3/4bpm out from a garmin chest strap. I can't use the chest strap for rugby as that tends to hurt

However, I have cycled with both on, and they track pretty much the same, 3-4 bpm difference between them. It is also very tough, so tough that I have played rugby in it for 6 months so far, and it has no damage.

 

[PhilDawson8270]

Supplementary question. I've not seen any mention of memory on these devices, do they only transmit real time data to a phone/app? Ideally I'll be looking at linking to my tablet once a day, is that feasible?

MS Band stores it all, then bluetooths it too a phone (or anything that can run Windows Mobile apps, or can run android apps, or iphone app)