Having to wear a helmet to do a sportive

[MacB]

and here goes another helmet debate.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

WAKEY WAKEY

 

[screenman]

I have got a fantastic idea, why not organise your own even for non wearers of helmets.

Me, I wear one because it want to.

 

[jimboalee]

Best shut up about helmets.

I hear a rumour about 'Flashing amber lamps' on vehicles that cannot do 25 mph.

That includes most cyclists, so if you want helmets to become law, and have amber flashing lamps on them compulsory too, carry on arguing.

 

[MacB]

Best shut up about helmets.

I hear a rumour about 'Flashing amber lamps' on vehicles that cannot do 25 mph.

That includes most cyclists, so if you want helmets to become law, and have amber flashing lamps on them compulsory too, carry on arguing.

You wait until you need flashing indicators, brake lights, reversing lights and one of those gadgets that beeps when you reverse as well.

 

[ianrauk]

I have got a fantastic idea, why not organise your own even for non wearers of helmets.

Me, I wear one because it want to.

Or just organise an event for cyclists....

 

[MacB]

Or just organise an event for cyclists....

controversial mate, next you'll be suggesting that anyone can get on a bike

 

[ianrauk]

controversial mate, next you'll be suggesting that anyone can get on a bike

I know mate. Living on the edge.. that's me!

 

[robgul]

I'm assuming that the non-helmet wearers also ride wearing earphones and listening to music too?

BTW, I organise a sportive and helmets are compulsory, and earphones banned. It has over 400 entrants this year, and entries are still coming in ... nuff said.

Rob

 

[MacB]

I'm assuming that the non-helmet wearers also ride wearing earphones and listening to music too?

BTW, I organise a sportive and helmets are compulsory, and earphones banned. It has over 400 entrants this year, and entries are still coming in ... nuff said.

Rob

Nuff said indeed, does it feel good, do you get off on the power?

 

[MacB]

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He's just making a point Mac, ffs.
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what, are you saying my 'post a few beers' knee jerk reaction is unreasonable?

 

[Smokin Joe]

I'm assuming that the non-helmet wearers also ride wearing earphones and listening to music too?

BTW, I organise a sportive and helmets are compulsory, and earphones banned. It has over 400 entrants this year, and entries are still coming in ... nuff said.

Rob

What makes you assume that?

Isn't it just possible that people can look at the available evidence on the effectiveness of helmets and come to a different conclusion to you while still taking all precautions to keep themselves safe in areas where they think it is warranted?

BTW, the only person I have ever seen texting while riding a bike was wearing a helmet. He nearly wobbled into the ditch when I shouted a greeting as he hadn't seen me coming towards him. Perhaps he thought he was so safe with the helmet on he could ride like a dick.

 

[MacB]

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Yes, asking if someone 'get's off' on the power when all they are doing is making a point that is relevant to the OP is a touch much.
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Nope, reviewed my post and I think I went a bit easy on him:-

cycling without a helmet - perfectly legal
cycling with headphones - perfectly legal
cycling, in this manner, on the roads his sportive will use - perfectly legal


It's all a bit, it's my ball and I'll take it home if you don't play by my rules, seriously what's to be done? I can enter a sportive and pootle off in any manner I like. What would the organsisers do, manhandle me off the road? I think not. If the roads are closed to the public then they might have a chance, barring that I'll ride when, where and how I like, I'm pretty easy with the idea.

No I don't have any plans to enter, and subversively disrupt, any sportives, but I have an instinctive dislike of rules that are contrary to the laws of the land.

 

[HJ]

Before i start this IS NOT another you should/should not wear a helmet ( enough of them threads already

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I have been cycling longer and longer distances on my own which i enjoy but i would like to take it a stage further.
I think i'm ready now to do a sportive or two and have made a few enquiries and it looks like i'll have to wear a helmet to take part. Now i don't wear a helmet and have no intention to either. I can't even sign a disclaimer apparently, bloody health and safety. So is that it then, either wear a helmet or don't do sportives?

jay

Some do and some don't make you wear a juju hat. Personally, it really puts me off entering sportives and I will never pay to enter an event that makes it compulsory.

 

[ufkacbln]

I'm sorry but I'm amazed by this last quote.... I find it hard to even put into words how ridiculous your decision to stop help organize bike rides for these youngsters purely based on the fact of been told they must wear helmets....

Why should I have to exclude parents, adults and others because of an decision to enforce an unproven and non-evidence besed decision...not ridiculous at all. I do not wish to remove the right of these indivuduals to make an informed decision on their own (and their children's) safety

Who gives you the right to do so?

To not be able to see the benefits of having a lid on and not wanting to encourage the youngsters in the safe equipment to wear when cycling totally baffles me to be honest... I don't blame the scout movement for implementing this ruling and as a parent myself I'd be amazed if i let my son take part in a cycling event where the wearing of helmets wasn't compulsory.

What is baffling is your erroneous assumptions about safety - If you were truly concerned they would be wearing helmets when playing games as well or can you not see the benefits of that?

Of course the other aspect is how would you feel if I sent your child home because I felt the helmet was inadequate r fitted wrongly?

I am quite aware of the benefits of helmets and unlike you have no illusions about their limitations.

Far more Scouts suffer head injuries playing games inside the HQ then on bikes. Or are you OK with these injuries, are they somehow acceptable.

Again you seem to know so much better than anyone else and wish to impose your wishes on others - please provide the evidence on which you based this right

Suppose you don't wear a seat belt either as these aren't really comfortable either are they!!!!!!!

The only assumption here is your ridiculous one..... who mentioned comfort?

If you are going to make stupid statements at least make them based on fact.... you don't even know if I am old enough to drive!

 

[lukesdad]

Flounce from the scouts,,,,eh? Thats a new one