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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Inside my skull
To be fair, the people your referring to go out to get those shorter segments. If they changed their goals, they'd probably still be pretty handy on longer segments too. A watt is a watt at the end of the day. That's my take on it anyway.

Not necesarily. A 100 metre sprinter does not make for a good marathon runner.
 

huwsparky

Über Member
Location
Llangrannog
Not necesarily. A 100 metre sprinter does not make for a good marathon runner.
You could at least try making your point based on something relevant...
 

Welsh wheels

Lycra king
Location
South Wales
I am a recovering KOMholic. I used to go for KOMS and then realised that it was pointless and tempted me to ride in a manner that was dangerous to myself and other road users. These days I couldn't care less and just use strava to record distance, time and average speed etc.
 

huwsparky

Über Member
Location
Llangrannog
It is precisely relevant. Some one good at short segments is not necessarily good at long ones. That you can not see that , well there is none so blind as those that do not look.
Why are you making your point based on a different sport? Please make your point based on cycling then I can make a better understanding of your getting at.

Your local hill climbing KOM strava guru doesn't resemble Usain Bolt, usually.
 

reacher

Senior Member
What’s wrong with being good at descending? It’s a key skill that you need for racing, surely?

Just look at how bad some of the Pro’s are, in comparison to others. They manage to throw away races as a result.
Nothing wrong with being good at going downwards just so long as your good at going upwards as well, everyone to their own and a goal is a goal but let's get realistic here, a kom going down a hill is hardly going to set the cycling world alight is it
 
Nothing wrong with being good at going downwards just so long as your good at going upwards as well, everyone to their own and a goal is a goal but let's get realistic here, a kom going down a hill is hardly going to set the cycling world alight is it

Perhaps not your personal cycling world, but it takes all sorts. We all place different values on the varied skills of the sport. I have a MTB background and would love to win the UCI’s downhill rainbow jersey but it ain’t going to happen. I don’t suppose anyone gives a damn how quick the winner is up the hill.
 

reacher

Senior Member
Are you joking? People win races by being better at descending.

Only in strava land m8, your talking about a differant thing altogether which is bike racing not setting a kom on strava and then comparing it to serious bike riders
 
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reacher

Senior Member
To be fair, the people your referring to go out to get those shorter segments. If they changed their goals, they'd probably still be pretty handy on longer segments too. A watt is a watt at the end of the day. That's my take on it anyway.
Not realy, depends on how long you can churn out those watts, you can't compare short sections to long efforts,
 

bpsmith

Veteran
Nothing wrong with being good at going downwards just so long as your good at going upwards as well, everyone to their own and a goal is a goal but let's get realistic here, a kom going down a hill is hardly going to set the cycling world alight is it
You can easily put the same effort in going downhill as going uphill. Just depends on what you’re into.

A KOM going uphill won’t set the world alight either. ;)

I suppose you think the flat sprints segments are pointless too?
 
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