roadrash
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was that a 25p each way bet
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was that a 25p each way bet
400bhp
Guru
That was the ambiguity.
They needed to follow up this message and they didn't.
Anyhow, it sounds like something is being sorted, according to the Orica bloke on Sky earlier.
roadrash
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what did he say ....i missed that
deptfordmarmoset
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I hope not. We all know that bikes are like buttered toast and nearly always land mech-side down.
400bhp
Guru
He said they [the teams] had put a proposal to the race organisers as one and they await the outcome in the next 24 hours. He mentioned that the teams were speaking as one which is encouraging (that's the jist I got anyway).
Let's see.
Flying_Monkey
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Their proposal (to remove the small time difference accumulated on the descent) has already been rejected by the race organizers and the UCI.
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thom
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It's sad - there's been a fark up by the organisers; racing in conditions on the edge of acceptability stretched their ability to give clear direction and control over the proceedings. For me the proposal to the teams made was reasonable as despite reducing Quintana's advantage somewhat, it still allowed him some benefit from the gap he accumulated subsequently which would have been much harder to achieve had he been attacking from a larger group of contenders.
RCS/UCI just don't know how to handle this satisfactorily - the absence of an admission of error seems wrong. Spectacle for spectacle's sake is not good for a race's reputation. Maybe the teams should neutralise the Zoncolan stage on principle now!
RCS/UCI just don't know how to handle this satisfactorily - the absence of an admission of error seems wrong. Spectacle for spectacle's sake is not good for a race's reputation. Maybe the teams should neutralise the Zoncolan stage on principle now!
2 minutes isn't that small!
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Maybe they should get blokes to tie Quintana's laces together, and then claim they were not sure about the rules.
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thom
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And it isn't just the time differences gained by the bottom - it's the ability to slipstream Quintana as in normal racing.
Hesjedal & Rolland managed to hang on - who's to say the rest of the top contenders wouldn't also ?
smutchin
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Moany gobshites, the lot of you. Whatever happened on the descent, the way Quintana rode up the final climb was magnificent and he earned every second of his lead.
Chapeau to Hesjedal for being able to hang on to his wheel for so long but he was a passenger all the way, as was the supposed "ally" Rolland.
And anyone who says Quintana made it look too easy wasn't watching the same race as me. He didn't celebrate as he crossed the line, clearly too drained by his effort. (And the fact that he wasn't able to drop Hesjedal or Rolland is encouraging from a performance analysis point of view.)
Is today's stage too soon after that epic effort for a repeat performance? We'll see. Will be interesting to see what happens if the likes of Pozzovivo, Aru or Uran try to attack, but my guess is they'll all keep their powder reasonably dry - looks like it could all come down to the Zoncolan.
Chapeau to Hesjedal for being able to hang on to his wheel for so long but he was a passenger all the way, as was the supposed "ally" Rolland.
And anyone who says Quintana made it look too easy wasn't watching the same race as me. He didn't celebrate as he crossed the line, clearly too drained by his effort. (And the fact that he wasn't able to drop Hesjedal or Rolland is encouraging from a performance analysis point of view.)
Is today's stage too soon after that epic effort for a repeat performance? We'll see. Will be interesting to see what happens if the likes of Pozzovivo, Aru or Uran try to attack, but my guess is they'll all keep their powder reasonably dry - looks like it could all come down to the Zoncolan.
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thom
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It is hard to argue hypotheticals but do you take my point though ?
It isn't so much the epic performance he did put in or necessarily about the rights and wrongs of how it happened. Its that it is very arguable how much of a time impact he could have had had he made that effort from the bottom of the last climb out of the main group of contenders. There's be more of an argument in his favour had Rolland and Hesjedal not managed to stay with him so long. But they did, so others would have too in all likelihood and hence the fact that he managed to be separate to the pink jersey group in non-normal racing circumstances is key to the time he gained up the climb as well as prior to that on the descent.
Flying_Monkey
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The teams were talking about 45 seconds.
Hont
Guru
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I agree with that. Regardless of the fairness of what happened Quintana would not have won by that margin without the gap obtained on the descent.
Should be interesting today with the Peloton effectively taking a day off yesterday.
I think we can expect quite a few attacks, as points are made and scores settled.
