Giro d'Italia 2017 **spoilers**

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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Dumoulin man of the day IMO
Eurosport commentator (Karsten Migels I think) reckons he'll easily take pink in first TT.

I just saw the crash. Not the best place to stop but surely should not have had the peloton ride into it, should it? Was the Sunweb rider head down?

:laugh: Movistar almost lost a team car, rolling off down the mountain during an interview.
 
laura messenger asks tom du Moulin , how do you feel today,...... answer..... I'm feeling sh!t
 

SWSteve

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Dumoulin must be happy waiting for the TT.

Don't count Nibali out of it, there are still 2 long weeks, remember last year...

Are there not passing places on these roads, so the motorbike could have slipped in there...
 

andrew_s

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I just saw the crash. Not the best place to stop but surely should not have had the peloton ride into it, should it? Was the Sunweb rider head down?
Riding in a peloton isn't the same as riding on your own, you know.

You aren't going to move out until you know you've got to move out, which may not be until the rider in front moves out. With each rider that dodges, the next rider gets less warning, until maybe 4 riders back there's no warning. In addition, there may very well not be any space to move out into because the rider to your side hasn't seen the moto and consequently hasn't moved out.
At cruising pace, the front riders would, or should, shout out a warning, but at full steam up a hill that's not really possible.
 
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Eurosport commentator (Karsten Migels I think) reckons he'll easily take pink in first TT.

I just saw the crash. Not the best place to stop but surely should not have had the peloton ride into it, should it? Was the Sunweb rider head down?

:laugh: Movistar almost lost a team car, rolling off down the mountain during an interview.

Perhaps the moto rider made a hand signal but the rider behind thought he was scratching his arse. ;)

Chad Haga of Sunweb (who were the team who first encountered the moto) replied to INRNG on twitter saying " It was stopped just after a right bend, we couldn't see it till the last moment and could only shout"
 
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And WIlco Kelderman (Sunweb) is less than happy on twitter:

"Very dissapointed. Why they put there a police motor? F*cking dangerous. Didn't saw it coming. break the same finger again"
 

SWSteve

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Location
Bristol...ish
Disgusting, just disgusting. If I was Dave Brailsford I'd pull the whole team out in protest. The race has no interest for me now, whoever wins now, it just doesn't matter. A total travesty.

That's a bit strong. Brailsford was remarkably diplomatic on Eurosport, I have a feeling he will be having a strong word off camera.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Riding in a peloton isn't the same as riding on your own, you know.
Thank you, grandson, but I already know how to eat this egg!

You aren't going to move out until you know you've got to move out, which may not be until the rider in front moves out. With each rider that dodges, the next rider gets less warning, until maybe 4 riders back there's no warning. In addition, there may very well not be any space to move out into because the rider to your side hasn't seen the moto and consequently hasn't moved out.
Did you not see it, then? Here's a clip. Note that the third Sunweb rider (apparently Tom Dumoulin), on one extreme of the V made by the front of the peloton, swerves late, serving Kelderman up a "moto surprise". I don't blame Kelderman for not seeing it in time, but what about Dumoulin? I can't be sure because it's only a replay of a helicopter shot but if that first replay is half-speed, Dumoulin appears to keep riding straight at it for at least 5 seconds.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9LYtmhOEEU
 
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