Giro d'Italia 2015 *spoilers*

[Crackle]

Muddled tactics from Astana.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Muddled tactics from Astana.

Giuseppe Martinelli was interviewed on Eurosport a few hours ago and said something along the lines of "each man for himself" and "wanting to win the stage" for today's stage - free reign to show how well the doping has impacted on their ability they can ride when allowed to race for themselves?

 

[the_craig]

Every climb this Giro has been Contador surrounded by 4 or 5 Astana riders.

And despite this, they still can't beat him.

 

[Crackle]

Giuseppe Martinelli was interviewed on Eurosport a few hours ago and said something along the lines of "each man for himself" and "wanting to win the stage" for today's stage - free reign to show how well the doping has impacted on their ability they can ride when allowed to race for themselves?

So why call Landa back?

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Fúck. Off. Astana.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

So why call Landa back?

I missed that one crax, switching between Scottish Cup Final and getting more angry at Astana watching the Giro

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

The Scottish Cup Final is good btw...

 

[sleaver]

Wasn't Kengert actually helping Contador by sitting in his well? I though having someone behind actually helps make the air flow less turbulent behind you or is that less pronounced on climbs just like you gain less by sitting in someone's wheel?

 

[rich p]

We should have a witchfinder debrief after tomorrow's stage.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

We should have a witchfinder debrief after tomorrow's stage.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Muddled tactics from Astana.

Not at all. It was a classic 'tag-team' double attack. Super-dom goes first to try to break the opponent, and then the leader goes once the opponent looks done in.

 

[400bhp]

Not at all. It was a classic 'tag-team' double attack. Super-dom goes first to try to break the opponent, and then the leader goes once the opponent looks done in.

Agree, but for moments it did look like they didn't know what they were doing.

Putting 2 mins into contador on one stage is not to be sniffed at.

Wouldn't put it past Astana to knock Contador off tomorrow.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Greg Lemond seemed to think that Astana made an arse of it, and reckoned if they had worked as a team they could have seriously left Dirty Bertie in trouble. Which goes back to my earlier post that Astana's manager said before the start that they would ride as individuals...maybe they had given up on being able to distance him? Whatever it was, they are still a shower of doping twats. I can see myself going back to my "not watching this lot of cheating daffodils" approach like I did in the 90s at this rate...

 

[Crackle]

Not at all. It was a classic 'tag-team' double attack. Super-dom goes first to try to break the opponent, and then the leader goes once the opponent looks done in.

It didn't look classic to me, it looked like Landa meant to win the stage and was subsequently called back, indeed he's said so since. Astana could quite possibly have won the Giro with Landa, Greg Lemond also questioned their tactics, specifically today but also in general.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

It didn't look classic to me, it looked like Landa meant to win the stage and was subsequently called back, indeed he's said so since. Astana could quite possibly have won the Giro with Landa, Greg Lemond also questioned their tactics, specifically today but also in general.

Landa might well have won it had he been leader from the start, I agree. And I guess I'll have to take his word for it on the stage. But if I was managing Astana, and Aru was the leader, then I would have done exactly what they did today.