Giro 2021. (with spoilers )

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Agreed. Unrealistic expectations from many people and the only gripe I have is that he helped fuel them. A little bit more humility on his part would have been nice but when you're that good at that agfe, I'll cut him some slack.
I specifically mentioned the longer term future. I aware of his terrible crash and recovery in body mind over time is a must especially if the injuries are serious such as a fractured pelvis. I also specifically did not mention the crash. It was on gravel and descent.

Remco descent is a known issue before the crash. Like VO2, this is something you either have it or not for a GC. Since he is young, can this be mentally nutured?

No intention to be flippant in raising this among the resident experts. If this is closed discussion, I will respect that.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
No intention to be flippant in raising this among the resident experts. If this is closed discussion, I will respect that.
What? Nothing is closed and we're far from experts but some things are worth a thread of their own if it's for an in-depth discussion, rather than the spoiler thread.
Feel free to start the ball rolling. I'm sure we'll contribute.:smile:
 
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Adam4868

Adam4868

Guru
I specifically mentioned the longer term future. I aware of his terrible crash and recovery in body mind over time is a must especially if the injuries are serious such as a fractured pelvis. I also specifically did not mention the crash. It was on gravel and descent.

Remco descent is a known issue before the crash. Like VO2, this is something you either have it or not for a GC. Since he is young, can this be mentally nutured?

No intention to be flippant in raising this among the resident experts. If this is closed discussion, I will respect that.
Understandable if he's lost his bottle a bit on descending after what he's just been through.I doubt that will be a obstacle for him in the future though.Dan Martin lost a lot of time on the gravel section...he said it wasn't worth the risk ? He'll be back stronger I'm sure,look at Bernal at last year's Tour ! I know it's a different take and no accidents etc..but I remember when Bernal faceplanted himself in a race a few years ago,took him out for a good while.Jist takes time to build your confidence again I guess.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Procyclingstats has the crash as involving 15 riders
BATTISTELLA Samuele (Astana - Premier Tech)
BERHANE Natnael (Cofidis, Solutions Crédits)
SCHMID Mauro (Team Qhubeka ASSOS)
VAN EMDEN Jos (Team Jumbo-Visma)
KNOX James (Deceuninck - Quick Step)
CAVAGNA Rémi (Deceuninck - Quick Step)
BRÄNDLE Matthias (Israel Start-Up Nation)
VERMEERSCH Gianni (Alpecin-Fenix)
BATTISTELLA Samuele (Astana - Premier Tech)
DINA Márton (EOLO-Kometa)
BUCHMANN Emanuel (BORA - hansgrohe)
GUERREIRO Ruben (EF Education - Nippo)
FOSS Tobias (Team Jumbo-Visma)
AFFINI Edoardo (Team Jumbo-Visma)
REICHENBACH Sébastien (Groupama - FDJ)
 
^^^^^:sad::sad::sad:^^^^^
 
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