Giro 2021. (with spoilers )

[mjr]

According to Kelly on the telly he did have a whistle. Although who knows ... they only have the same TV pics as us.

That, plus I thought I could hear a whistle on the blurry phone video shared on twitter which stops when the marshal falls.

The orange mat was already about 50% taller than the sign it was strapped to. Any taller and it could fall in wind or it would need support ropes which are themselves a risk and it still wouldn't come close to the large overhead signs.

I suspect the only good extra measure is to remove the islands which will increase the cost to host towns, price some out and reduce RCS income. Or we reconsider the idea stopping the GC clock at the town limits on sprint stages so only the sprint trains are trying to hang onto the bunch through the difficult road layouts.

 

[rich p]

Lousy weather again...

...bet you're glad you're not there Adam

 

[rich p]

Remco is so much more mature at 21 than I was...

...am!

 

[Adam4868]

Lousy weather again...

...bet you're glad you're not there Adam

Don't....I miss holidays more than even the pub !

 

[mjr]

according to what was said on tv yesterday the marshall didnt have a whistle [...]
as for....the centre line going solid and then widening into hatching, do you think you would notice that in the middle of a peleton at the speeds they was doing yesterday.

That's different to the TV I heard.

Maybe I would notice the danger line, or maybe not, but it is just one warning among many. The question is open to you too: what warnings would you add?

I post here to discuss the race but I am frankly astonished by the reaction to this crash which looks like rider inattention on a common road layout marked up in a totally typical way. I condemn stuff like those unmarked low white bollards on a bend that took Tony Martin out a while back but this???

 

[Adam4868]

That's different to the TV I heard.

Maybe I would notice the danger line, or maybe not, but it is just one warning among many. The question is open to you too: what warnings would you add?

I post here to discuss the race but I am frankly astonished by the reaction to this crash which looks like rider inattention on a common road layout marked up in a totally typical way. I condemn stuff like those unmarked low white bollards on a bend that took Tony Martin out a while back but this???

Maybe start a different thread ?

 

[roadrash]

For a start , if it was down to me , i wouldnt have sprint finishes with so much road furniture , so would negate the issue of extra warnings.

Maybe I would notice the danger line, or maybe not

but you expect the riders to see it

 

[Adam4868]

Remco is so much more mature at 21 than I was...

...am!

Sign of getting old you mention Italy and holidays I think food and wine ! Nowt to do with the country ?

 

[rich p]

Sign of getting old you mention Italy and holidays I think food and wine ! Nowt to do with the country ?

I've just googled the caves Dan Lloyd mentioned. I fancy another trip to Marche

 

[rich p]

I'm off to pick up the grandkids from school ...I doubt they'll want to watch static camera shots from Italy

 

[Adam4868]

I've just googled the caves Dan Lloyd mentioned. I fancy another trip to Marche

Still at work so I'm gonna miss today's stage till later....thank God I spent 20 and can watch on catch up 🙄
Without turning it into a travel thread,Bergamo has to be one of my favourite city's ! Can't wait to get back.

 

[nickyboy]

For a start , if it was down to me , i wouldnt have sprint finishes with so much road furniture , so would negate the issue of extra warnings.



but you expect the riders to see it

I think this is sorta what I alluded to. Races have to finish in towns. The towns that pay for the hoopla get some back from the increased footfall in hotels, restaurants, bars etc (in normal time). I think it's fair to say that generally, as you get closer and closer to the centre of towns, the amount of road furniture increases

I did say "there isn't much you more you can do about it". But perhaps there is for something so egregious as a massive bollard in the middle of the road 5km from the finish when the peloton are full gas: some overhead warning thing approaching the hazard, rather like those overhead gantries on motorways warning of lane closures? It's an expensive measure so it would only be the most dangerous road furniture items (like yesterday's)

It's tough on the riders. I watched the onboard camera footage of yesterday's stage. Now of course they are professionals and used to it, and I'm not. But blimey, I would have all on concentrating on not riding into someone without thinking about whistles, pennants, hatched road markings etc when it's full on racing close to the finish

 

[Nomadski]

Think someone at the Giro needs to reboot the router. This coverage is awful.

 

[mjr]

For a start , if it was down to me , i wouldnt have sprint finishes with so much road furniture , so would negate the issue of extra warnings.

Ok, so you'd prefer a smaller choice of finish towns and so poorer RCS. Understood.

but you expect the riders to see it

Or one of the other warnings.

But perhaps there is for something so egregious as a massive bollard in the middle of the road 5km from the finish when the peloton are full gas: some overhead warning thing approaching the hazard, rather like those overhead gantries on motorways warning of lane closures? It's an expensive measure so it would only be the most dangerous road furniture items (like yesterday's)

That crossing already had two overhead warning signs.

 

[Adam4868]

Think someone at the Giro needs to reboot the router. This coverage is awful.