Gears and Turbo Training

[jazzkat]

What do you think of the Hunted?? was going to purchase the new one, islagiatt. or whatever it stands for.

I like the hunted, the last push kills me! I like revolver and downward spiral too, simple but effective

 

[LimeBurn]

I like the hunted, the last push kills me! I like revolver and downward spiral too, simple but effective

I'll add it to the list then, thanks.

 

[GmanUK65]

I am new to turbo training so I am trying different things. When I do interval training I do not seem to be very tired at the end of it so I am trying something different. When I am on my bike outside I tend to ride for endurance by riding about 100km every Sunday and shorter rides during the week (about 25km 3 time a week). When I bought the turbo trainer (Tracx Blue Motion) I got a free download of the Tracx video player with some demos of virtual riding videos which showed when to change resistances. So, it seemed like it was simulating a real ride. I bought a DVD of a 100km training ride (Training with Quickstep - Spain) last week and tried it out on Sunday. After a 10 minute warmup I started the video and I only managed about 10km of it before my legs gave up and I had to go into the cool down period. The reason for this is that the resistance during this time was using all the levels (1 - 10) at a guess an average of 5 - 6 (3km into the ride there was 14km ride up Coll de Rates). My plan is now to try out the Demos during the week, and every Sunday or Monday to do the 100km video to see if I can improve on the distance. I do not know if my thinking is correct but I think this will help in my endurance training. What do other people think?

 

[Kevin Alexander]

I think another factor is that when you cycle outside you dont realise that you stop for traffic lights or sometimes you dont pedal and just free roll, but with a turbo trainer its constant

I cant wait for the snow to come so I can use mines outside and get some cool air and snow whilst doing it.

 

[LimeBurn]

I think another factor is that when you cycle outside you dont realise that you stop for traffic lights or sometimes you dont pedal and just free roll, but with a turbo trainer its constant

I cant wait for the snow to come so I can use mines outside and get some cool air and snow whilst doing it.

I agree, every inch of momentum on a turbo has been forced through the pedals, when you're on a 10 mile ride on the road I wonder how much is free wheeling, downhill, flat etc. 50 - 70% maybe?? Then again the uphills are always harder I think on the road than on a trainer as Im not carrying nearly 16 stone up hill on a turbo

 

[Chrisoneill2]

An hour on the turbo is worth 2 on the road.

 

[Dusty Bin]

An hour on the turbo is worth 2 on the road.

I think that's over-simplifying it. Two hours on the road at a higher intensity is worth more than an hour on the turbo at a lower intensity. Horses for courses...

 

[VamP]

I think that's over-simplifying it. Two hours on the road at a higher intensity is worth more than an hour on the turbo at a lower intensity. Horses for courses...

One hour on the road at a higher intensity is worth more than one hour on the turbo at a lower intensity for that matter.

 

[LimeBurn]

Isn't that over complicating it?

Surely 1 hour on the turbo at a low or high intensity is better than an hour on the road at low or high intensity. Its just the road is far more enjoyable and less sweaty!

 

[VamP]

Isn't that over complicating it?

Surely 1 hour on the turbo at a low or high intensity is better than an hour on the road at low or high intensity. Its just the road is far more enjoyable and less sweaty!

I can always get a bigger TSS out of an hour on the road than indoors. No matter how hard I try (and I really really try) on the turbo.

 

[jazzkat]

I can always get a bigger TSS out of an hour on the road than indoors. No matter how hard I try (and I really really try) on the turbo.

I'm the other way around, in spring I get disappointed that my 1hr road rides are easier than my turbo sessions and I really push myself too. Last spring I bought a fixed, now that sorted my training efforts on the road!!

 

[biggs682]

been using my turbo for a week now , at moment doing 30 mins sessions every night with no load on a 46 x 11 geared 26" wheeled mtb , normally wind it up gradually for 5 mins then try and keep a steady pace so i start to sweat after 20 mins as i do on the road .

will try and use some load next week on same time duration and see how it goes , not looking to win tdf but just keep fitter

 

[panini]

When I bought the turbo trainer (Tracx Blue Motion) I got a free download of the Tracx video player with some demos of virtual riding videos which showed when to change resistances. So, it seemed like it was simulating a real ride.

I have the Blue Motion as well. I think it is better to set to a fixed resistance (say 5) that you are comfortable with and use the gears to vary the load. The Blue Motion and Satori (which has the same or similar power curves) will only simulate a gradient of around 4% max without using gears.

I know the Tacx video player doesn't work like this but if you use something like the wattzap.com player coupled with an ANT speed sensor it will show your power based on your current speed and weight and it will also control video speed taking into account gradient if you use the VR mode. If you have a cadence sensor you want to spin in the 70-90 rpm range unless doing specific cadence exercises.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

If you have a cadence sensor you want to spin in the 70-90 rpm range unless doing specific cadence exercises.

Why?