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Sittingduck

Legendary Member
Location
Somewhere flat
Riverman said:
Thanks.

I hope I'm not coming across as arrogant. I'm genuinaly curious to get to the bottom of this. I am not a very fit at all, thus I've always assumed I can't be going very fast, even though some of my posts may have given a different impression.

I've sort of got my head around your post MacBludgen. A 7 speed is an interesting proposition. However I think there are two problems

Ideally I'd want the same range as I have (on the top chain ring) now but with a higher gear, but if I wanted that higher gear on a 7speed, wouldn't it mean my lowest gear was higher than the lowest I have now on my top chain ring?

Even though I don't use the lower rings, there are hills round here where I SHOULD use them (eg the map I posted earlier) so I should probably keep them.

Not if you keep the existing cassette and just get a smaller sprocket to replace your current smallest. You could do this on say the highest 2 cogs to give higher gearing. You would need to ensure the remaining cogs/sprockets are in pretty good condition though because a mix of very old and new would cause problems with the chain, I think.

Or buy a whole new cassette (change the chain too) and get one with a larger range - similar large sprocket but smaller at the top end?
 

RedBike

New Member
Location
Beside the road
I really can't tell from the photo but it appears as though it's not a rear cassette might not be a cassette but a threaded on freewheel. In which case he wont have much choice of ratios. A 13 tooth sprocket is probably the smallest commonly available. (There are smaller sizes but finding them might be difficult!)

If the bike has got a cassette then simply changing the cassette over to an 11-32 will give you those two extra higher gears you want relatively cheaply. (although i still don't think you need them!)

The chainrings on the crankset might not be removable and even if you did change them you're likely to run into trouble with your front mech if you fit anything larger than a 48. My road bike only has a 50 outer chainring and I have never span it out.
I tend to stop pedalling at that sort of speed (50+mph) and just hang on!
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Riverman said:
Something makes me feel like I'd have to spin at 110rpm or above to go the same speed uphill as I do on the flat.


That's not quite what I said... The thing that stays the same is the rate your feet spin at, the cadence - as the gears go lower, that same cadence gives you a lower speed. (if you drive, think about how the number of revs gives you different speeds in each gear, or alternatively, the difference a pulley makes when you are lifting a load). The people who pass me apparently effortlessly aren't spinning faster than on the flat, but at the same cadence in a lower gear. They are going slower than they are on the flat, but spinning at the same rate, and happen to be fit enough to be going uphill faster than me. I try to do this, but sooner or later I run out of low gears and if the hill is still going I'm reduced to grinding at a slower cadence (if it's very bad, I run out of enough momentum to keep upright!)

On a trike, where overbalancing isn't a problem, you can have a tiny tiny low gear and just winch yourself slowly up at less than walking pace.

I don't think you're coming across as arrogant at all - I think we just need to know your real cadence and speed (I mean, not a guess at speed, which can be hard to estimate) and all will become clear. Plus, we are assuming that your set up is as stated in the link you posted - to be quite sure, you could count the teeth on your chainrings and sprockets...
 
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Riverman

Riverman

Guru
Hi,

I recently had this bike stolen. :-( However I bought a second hand Dawes Discovery 201 hybrid bike. I find it much harder to pedal. I don't know whether this is the larger wheels, a heavier frame (it's 20" not 18" like the diamondback) or a harder gearing.

The top gear is brutal! Unfortuantely the shifting is abit of a mess at the moment but I will sort that out. I'm not sure what year this bike is. It's in good condition but is definitely on the older side. It has front suspension if that helps. Is there anywhere on the bike that refers to the age?

This bike is definitely faster on the flat but a killer on the hills even in lower gears.

Dawes Discovery 201
http://www.dawescycles.com/p-160-discovery-201-gents.aspx

Diamondback Oulook 2008
http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/...008&Brand=Diamondback&Model=Outlook&Type=bike
 
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