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Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I've just used it succesfully twice, once using PIN and once using 'Send to Garmin', fantastic integration there I'm very impressed.

If I am creating a route, RideWithGPS is my go to app, and I only have the free version.

Very simple to load the route to my Wahoo, sounds like it is just as simple for the Garmins.
 
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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
By the way (this is going a bit off topic/too detailed) Garmin have a thing called ConnectIQ where app writers can publish apps to run on the Garmin units. RideWithGPS have an app with which you can "pull" routes from RWGPS onto the head unit. Anyway I had a problem with this and RWGPS support told me that this method of getting routes onto the GPS has been deprecated by Garmin. They are preferring the use of sync with Garmin connect to "push" routes.
 

Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
Gloucester
All very useful thank you. So, if I wanted to do the Rebellion Way or the C2C for example I find them online and send to the Garmin?
Personally I wouldn't do this. I would re-create the route myself on RideWithGPS and use my version during the ride.

Reasons:
  • I know that the version I actually use has been created using methods which are compatible with my Garmin and that it will work on the day without problems. If I'm using someone else's file, I don't know this.
  • The process of re-creating the route, which only takes a few minutes, helps to acquaint me with the route. There are almost always details which I wish to change, such as a small diversion to a point of interest or a route through a town which I think uses a bad option. Sometimes there are minor errors, such as spurs, which get eliminated.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Personally I wouldn't do this. I would re-create the route myself on RideWithGPS and use my version during the ride.

Reasons:
  • I know that the version I actually use has been created using methods which are compatible with my Garmin and that it will work on the day without problems. If I'm using someone else's file, I don't know this.
  • The process of re-creating the route, which only takes a few minutes, helps to acquaint me with the route. There are almost always details which I wish to change, such as a small diversion to a point of interest or a route through a town which I think uses a bad option. Sometimes there are minor errors, such as spurs, which get eliminated.

A big YES to this. I tend to grab other people's routes for these longer rides. I then use this as template to plot my own. Usually on the mapping software the route will be identified as NCN 123 and can easily be referenced.

Other people's might include diversion to a cafe, through a town for food etc. I like to plot the exact route, I can then deviate as I wish.

I also have a personal quirk to routing. I always put a way point before a turn and another a little after the turn. This helps ensure one gets the actual turn one wants. It's just a little quirk of mine.

I have friends who simply drop a waypoint 5-6 miles ahead. This can and does result in missed turns. There's one route we ride regularly where straight on is actually a right turn to stay on the same road! These little anomalies exist everywhere.
 
Ive just switched to wahoo and whilst not as pretty as the Garmin is much more logical to use imo.

I have an edge explore which I will be selling soon. DM me if interested.
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
I have a couple of Garmins (820 and 1030+) both work really well for following a route once it's on the device. Mapping is provided by the device itself (although periodic updates are required by plugging the device into a computer) and routing can be done on the device itself. POIs are all in there as well - case in point I decided to ride home from the office (Leyland to Liverpool) but about 20 mins in got a call from Mrs C that she hadn't got keys so I used the garmin to get to the nearest station, took about a minute to get the route loaded and following it was really easy.

Usually I load routes from Strava - it's connected to my garmin account so once the route is created it appears pretty much automatically on the Garmin device no other work necessary. I'm pretty sure RWGPS has similar functionality for the newest devices.

The Garmin Explore series is really good - great screen, relatively easy to use and completely disconnected from any app based experience unless you want it.
 

All uphill

Still rolling along
Location
Somerset
It's the difference in battery life and robustness of a dedicated unit. You aren't killing the phone battery just in case you actually need to call someone or take photos.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I take my phone as usual and also a cheap sim free phone for navigation.

The big plus for me is that if I break my phone I can just stick the sim in the one one my handlebars.
 

PaulSB

Squire
When I had a Garmin 830 I found the button navigation to be fiddly and counterintuitive.

Yes. I had two 830s and found the button navigation the same. Nothing in the menus was where one would logically expect it to be.

I feel Garmin's problems arise from the fact they have never designed a unit from scratch. Their more recent competitors, not just Wahoo, have had the significant benefit of starting with a blank canvas.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I feel Garmin's problems arise from the fact they have never designed a unit from scratch. Their more recent competitors, not just Wahoo, have had the significant benefit of starting with a blank canvas.
My first Garmin unit was a GPSMap 76S in roughly 2001. I still have it, and it still works. The menus on it are remarkably similar to those in my 60CSX (about 2006) Oregon (about 2012) and Edge Touring Plus (about 2015) and Edge 530 (about 2019) The lineage and inheritance from previous devices was very strong. The link starts to break a bit with the Edge 1040 (about 2023) but it's still there if you look.

So Garmin did design a unit from scratch. It's just that they did it about 25 years ago! :laugh:
 
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