Froome and Wiggins TUEs

[Siclo]

David Millar and Tyler Hamilton have admitted to abusing the TUE system to take Kenacort 20 years ago and I doubt it was a new thing even then.

And it's exactly why Geert Leinders was given a lifetime ban, beneficiaries included Steven de Jongh.

I couldn't think where Sky got the idea.

 

[smutchin]

View: https://twitter.com/lionelbirnie/status/973194738831642624


Now, someone remind me which sport Richard Freeman was working in before he joined Sky...

 

[mjr]

View: https://twitter.com/lionelbirnie/status/973194738831642624


Now, someone remind me which sport Richard Freeman was working in before he joined Sky...

Oh well. It's not as if any British Cycling executive officers have recently come from that sport

 

[mjr]

As for solving the problem of TUE abuse, UKAD have been trying to get triamcinolone banned outright for ages but WADA have resisted so far. Probably because WADA agree with those like @mjr who don't want to see athletes with genuine chronic medical conditions punished for the crimes of others.

But even I'm uncomfortable with triamcinolone because there appear to be alternatives without the performance enhancing attributes for most of its uses... but we're really back to the question of how you avoid having doctors working in the sport who will pick the PED over the non-PE drug to make a pushy team boss happy.

 

[jowwy]

So this time a politician is to be believed ? I wonder why that is ?

And were did i say i believed him......i just said he was back tracking.

Best you read my post again

 

[400bhp]

But even I'm uncomfortable with triamcinolone because there appear to be alternatives without the performance enhancing attributes for most of its uses... but we're really back to the question of how you avoid having doctors working in the sport who will pick the PED over the non-PE drug to make a pushy team boss happy.

Independent doctors accredited by the UCI. Not dissimilar to a process we have in my line of work.

 

[smutchin]

i just said he was back tracking.

Is he back-tracking though? It looks to me like he's just reiterating what he said first time round.

Of course, he doesn't do himself any favours with his confused thinking - what he's describing as an "ethical line" being crossed is actually an infringement of the rules. In that respect, Redgrave is correct that it's black and white - it's either cheating (obtaining a TUE under false pretences) or it's not cheating (the TUE was obtained for legitimate medical reasons).

 

[Milkfloat]

Independent doctors accredited by the UCI. Not dissimilar to a process we have in my line of work.

I would even suggest WADA doctors as the UCI history is not exactly squeaky clean.

 

[smutchin]

UCI history is not exactly squeaky clean

Outrageous slur!

 

[FishFright]

And were did i say i believed him......i just said he was back tracking.

Best you read my post again

Should I go back and quote what you said about the trustworthiness of politicians or would that spoil things for you ?

 

[jowwy]

Should I go back and quote what you said about the trustworthiness of politicians or would that spoil things for you ?

But did i say i believed him???

 

[FishFright]

But did i say i believed him???

Enough to use him to back up your mancrush, let's be honest you'd quote Trump if he said Wiggo had a nice bum

 

[jowwy]

Enough to use him to back up your mancrush, let's be honest you'd quote Trump if he said Wiggo had a nice bum

So because i have a different opinion to you, i have a mancrush

Grow up will you. Not everyone believes the rubbish

 

[hopless500]

Enough to use him to back up your mancrush, let's be honest you'd quote Trump if he said Wiggo had a nice bum

I didn't snigger, honest

 

[roadrash]

I did