vickster
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Maybe it depends on your GP? I've had multiple Covid invites if that's what you mean
Flu jab effective?
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Maybe it depends on your GP? I've had multiple Covid invites if that's what you mean
presta
Guru
Flu vaccine rules changed at the time covid appeared. Prior to covid, the pharmacist told me that AF isn't a qualifying condition for flu vaccine, but as I've never seen a copy of the rules as they were previously I don't know whether I was being fobbed off or not.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
You may believe that, but it's not true.
Covid doubling time was three days or so without social distancing. Any infections that early would have resulted in wider societal spread correspondingly earlier too; patient zero on 1st Nov implies a million infections by year end.
My own mother suffered what was probably a severe post viral response from an infection in August 2019, and has never fully recovered. There's no reason to ascribe that to Covid for it to be real.
vickster
Legendary Member
Ok, I only had AF for 18 months, so no idea. During Covid, 50+ got flu vax free, now back to 65?
GP sent invites, nothing to do with chemist
I've often thought that long Covid sounded very similar to other long term post viral conditions for which the NHS (primary) healthcare doesn't seem to provide much help for (ME/CFS and related). Over the last few years I've been quite shocked by the number of debilitating conditions we know so little about and have no real treatment for. And that brings me to what I regard as a "not fit for purpose" pharmaceutical industry where motivation is for profit rather than needs and suffering ...
Ian
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Like our supermarkets where the motivation is profit and not curing world hunger.
multitool
Well-Known Member
And why, in a capitalist system, should things be any different?
Pharmaceutical products cost a huge amount of money to develop, and the cost and risk is born entirely by the manufacturer. How do you think they raise the capital to fund research?
Because to my mind the priority should be to alleviate human suffering, to develop treatments addressing the medical needs of society, not to focus on making the already wealthy even wealthier.
Also, in effect the risk is born by us all in that they know the success rates of developments so cost their successful products to cover the cost of failed developments.
Better a publicly funded research system where research & development can be focused on needs of society rather than profit needs of the wealthy.
Ian
Drago
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But how could with have publicly funded research on that financial scale without taxation income?
And if you publicly fund everything important to society you deprive the state of the tax income it needs to fund such projects in the first place.
I don't have the answer, but that ain't it.
And if you publicly fund everything important to society you deprive the state of the tax income it needs to fund such projects in the first place.
I don't have the answer, but that ain't it.
lazybloke
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The big supermarkets must have big overheads. The graph doesn't reflect the true price difference between the shops, which for my typical basket of ingredients is much more than a single digit percentage.
I notice Sains put chocolate eclairs up by more than 50% this week!
PS Also, it's Pomelo season! When are only Lidl and Asda selling them?
PPS what does this have to do with flu jabs?
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We're paying for it already through the NHS buying drugs, through health insurance premiums (in countries where they apply), etc. The Pharma companies make their profits from selling drugs they develop and ultimately we're the ones paying for those drugs.
Ian
The book we use for guidance and to check eligibility is called the Green book and this is updated every year, typically based on JCVI guidance. Specifically you want Chapters 14a and 19.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/immunisation-against-infectious-disease-the-green-book
Sometimes the interpretation is the nuance here - with words like "severe" or "chronic" this can leave the clinician needing to interpret eligibility. Asthma was a classic one a couple of years back where the belief was that anyone with asthma was eligible then they redefined this to be severe asthma but this again needed further clarity as to what constitutes severe!!
Ultimately, it is the clinician to decide on whether or not the person presenting is eligible (or not)
presta
Guru
It's not a graph of prices.
It doesn't:
Yes, I know, I have a copy with the relevant paragraphs all marked up, what I don't have is a copy of the previous issue before it was revised for covid.
