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They are scheduled to be! A wee change of blood and they will be fine. I gest of course. ;)

Not THAT much different to what they do in a week long Tour is it? These guys are NAILS.

I would say that the pace and tactics on a spring classics one day are significantly different from a single stage on a 3 week tour.
 
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The lead group hopped off a section of cobbles onto a smoother surface running alongside the road. There's new UCI rule which stops riders doing this - they're supposed to stay on the road.
they should plow the verge like at the Arenberg to stop such shenanigans
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
Hmmm, was it a McQuaid rule or a Cookson rule?
Remember that Phat and Hein came up with all sorts of petty misdemeanours.
 
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[QUOTE 2959728, member: 259"]Don't give Flemish farmers any more ideas. Many of our local rights of way disappear under the plough at least once a year.[/quote]

That explains the Brussels ring road..
 

tigger

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Hmmm, was it a McQuaid rule or a Cookson rule?
Remember that Phat and Hein came up with all sorts of petty misdemeanours.

Good point. An easy to enforce rule (read turn a blind eye) with loads of grey areas (like haematocrit levels).
 
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Hmmm, was it a McQuaid rule or a Cookson rule?
Remember that Phat and Hein came up with all sorts of petty misdemeanours.

You can kind of see the logic with this one, from a safety point-of-view. I seem to remember couple of near misses with peds last year?
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
You can kind of see the logic with this one, from a safety point-of-view. I seem to remember couple of near misses with peds last year?
Agreed.
Just wondering if there's a reason it's not being enforced.
 
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Agreed.
Just wondering if there's a reason it's not being enforced.

According to the Belgian press, UCI will clarify later in the week how it's going to get enforced. Lotto-Belisol also squacking now - they'd told their riders to stay off the cyclepaths etc at all costs.
 

The Couch

Über Member
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Crazytown
You can kind of see the logic with this one, from a safety point-of-view. I seem to remember couple of near misses with peds last year?
There have been near misses indeed in the last years, but it actually came into place because of a not-miss (Langeveld who crashed into a supporter during the Ronde van Vlaanderen 2012).

Still... the rule is too much open for interpretation, since apparently even the UCI-head commissioner (Peter Judez) said himself, if 1 rider does it we disqualify him, if 30 riders do it, we don't do anything. And if the rule is to protect fans and riders, does it make sense to apply the rule to a piece of road where there aren't any supporters standing on the "alternative road"?
 
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Good show from Klara Verzele, by the way, on her first outing of the season:whistle:
 

oldroadman

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Ubique
There have been near misses indeed in the last years, but it actually came into place because of a not-miss (Langeveld who crashed into a supporter during the Ronde van Vlaanderen 2012).

Still... the rule is too much open for interpretation, since apparently even the UCI-head commissioner (Peter Judez) said himself, if 1 rider does it we disqualify him, if 30 riders do it, we don't do anything. And if the rule is to protect fans and riders, does it make sense to apply the rule to a piece of road where there aren't any supporters standing on the "alternative road"?
It's an interesting view. One opinion might be "forget the spectator issue, but if one or more riders do it TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE then it's open to sanction". Which is OK but then who defines what an advantage is? It may be an advantage later in the race not to have been shaken about a bit on the bumpy stuff, but how do you tell?
The simple case is that's it's always gone on, and in a more litigious age, UCI have created a rule to say it shouldn't, so if something goes wrong and the lawyers get involved, they can say "we made a regulation about it because we recognise a danger, so it's now up to the race commissaires to enforce it, and they can only do that if they see it happen". The Lincoln GP had a nasty little cobbled climb to the finish, and a few years ago riders would hop on to pavement alongside, the last time I saw the race there were barriers at the road edge to stop it happening, but that's only a short stretch, not kilometres long sections.
Right, it's warming up so I'm off to the local cobbled road to remind myself what fun it is.....
 
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