Fitting new tyres to Fulcrum 3

[Shooter999]

Thanks for all the informative helpful advice, it's appreciated.

They're the wired version, what's the difference between them? (Didn't know there were different types)

I understand the reasoning by using talc, but it's not as if I can take talc on the Bike with me.

Is the 1st time the hardest, i.e. If I get it on once, it will be easier to remove and refit out on the road?

 

[derrick]

Folding tyres go on a lot easier and they are lighter.

 

[accountantpete]

Thanks for all the informative helpful advice, it's appreciated.

They're the wired version, what's the difference between them? (Didn't know there were different types)

I understand the reasoning by using talc, but it's not as if I can take talc on the Bike with me.

Is the 1st time the hardest, i.e. If I get it on once, it will be easier to remove and refit out on the road?

Get folders as they are lighter etc etc.

Tyres are usually easier to fit on the road as the flexing and heat will have made them more pliable.

If you have a real struggle then the best bet is to fit the tyre at one point and tie or strap the tyre to the rim. Then a quarter of the way around pull the tyre away from the bit that is tied and apply another tie or strap. Then on the other side do the same. You should be left with 1/4 opposite the original tie - because the tyre is stretched it should easily fit on using fingers and thumbs.

 

[Shooter999]

Thanks for all of the tips. As I said, I've not had this problem before.

Think I'll try the rubino pro, especially if they're an upgrade on the gatorskins. I'll also get a var tyre lever.

Cheers

 

[screenman]

Why can you not take talc with you, not like you need a full tin, just a couple of teaspoon full will do the job.

 

[Globalti]

Once a new tyre has been treated with talc it will lose its stickiness. There's no point in trying to push the bead down into the well of the rim on the opposite side if the bead is sticking to the rim in between; the tyre must be free to move around as you pull the bead over the rim. Put enough air into the inner for it to keep its shape but not so much that it begins to hinder the tyre from dropping into the well.

 

[bonsaibilly]

Tyres are usually easier to fit on the road as the flexing and heat will have made them more pliable.

Just a couple of questions:

1. For the flexing and heat to have made the tyres more pliable, they would have to already be on the wheels, surely, so wouldn't, er, need to be fitted.
2. How would one fit a tyre on the road? Surely you'd have to stop?
BB

 

[vickster]

Presumably he meant after a puncture?

 

[Ajax Bay]

To save @accountantpete having to answer your insightful questions @bonsaibilly
It's easier fitting tyres onto rims indoors where (one assumes (UK!)) the temperature is higher than outside.
Answer to Q1: If one needs to refit a tyre 'on the road' it's normally after a p****ture so they will be easier (than a new one) to fit as they will have been subject to "flexing and heat".
Answer to Q2: One doesn't fit a tyre onto the road, one fits it onto a rim, and if 'on the road' when one needs to fit it, one invariably has stopped because of a p***ture.

 

[bonsaibilly]

Oh right. Got it. I still wonder if that is actually the case at all mind you. I mean if I have ever had to remove a tyre mid ride to fix a puncture it's by no stretch of the imagination still warm when it comes to refitting. I'm also unaware of the level to which a ridden tyre is either more pliable by virtue of having been ridden, or more flexible by virtue of having been warmed up then re-cooled..? Bb

 

[Ajax Bay]

Once its on and been pumped up for a few miles it will be a lot easier

I agree with this.

unaware of the level to which a ridden tyre is either more pliable by virtue of having been ridden

What metric of pliability do you think would be useful when considering the levels of which you are unaware.? Think we're just saying there's a delta: refitting is (nearly) always easier than first fit, when a tyre/rim combo is a challenge.

 

[bonsaibilly]

I don't know, hence my asking. All it was based on is, in my experience for a given tyre and a given rim (and a given tube), I have never found it any easier or harder to fit up at first fitting or subsequent refittings. An easy fit is easy and a hard fit is always a bugger. I'm just not convinced that many of us can ride fast and hard enough that a tyre will be more pliable as a result when having stopped cycling for five minutes or whatever, that it will have retained anything of the heat generated previously. Bb

 

[Elybazza61]

How many times do I have to post this on Cycle Chat?

TALC.

The best natural dry lubricant for sticky new rubber. Sprinkle it liberally all over the tube and the bead. You'll be able to fit the tyre with your thumbs.

...and do the job indoors where the rubber will be warm.

^This.

Can recommend Clement Strada LGG's(120tpi version);cut's up a bit*(not as bad as Vittoria Paves) but has been puncture free and smooth rolling since September last year so has seen the worst of the winter crap,should fit easily on Fulcrums as they went on my Zondas like a breeze.

*The main thing with a tyre that cut's up is to check periodically for flints etc in the tyre and fill any cuts with rubber glue(the stuff that comes with puncture kits).

 

[Shooter999]

Rubinos turned up today and fitted to both wheels via hand in no time at all. Just need some nice weather now to get the wheels on the bike.

I'm hoping they're going to be an improvement on the mavic cxp 22's I'm currently using.

Can I just take the current cassette and spacer configuration and transfer to the new wheels, or will the gears need re indexing?

Thanks for all advice, really appreciated.

 

[Elybazza61]

Should be ok,might need a little tweak on the rear mech adjuster;make sure the cassette is on tight.