Eurovision ~ Malmö, 2024

[AndyRM]

No, as it turns out. Just being gay and having musclemen in red codpieces isn't enough these days.

I wanted Thug Bambi to win. I thought their song was really interesting and creative.

For our entry it needed a lot less messing about with the set and more actual singing and performance. Also the song needed a better ending. It felt like half a song.

Agreed on Bambi. There were a lot of reasons I wanted them to win, not least because it annoyed a lot of conservative Irish people.

 

[icowden]

Agreed on Bambi. There were a lot of reasons I wanted them to win, not least because it annoyed a lot of conservative Irish people.

I can imagine. I just thought it was a really clever fusion of two different styles of music and Bambie sang both styles very well. Apparently it's something she does a lot with her song writing.

 

[AndyRM]

I can imagine. I just thought it was a really clever fusion of two different styles of music and Bambie sang both styles very well. Apparently it's something she does a lot with her song writing.

Yup. It's pretty hard to pull off too and when it goes wrong it's spectacularly awful.

 

[Legs]

I thought the Irish song was dreadful!

 

[AndyRM]

I thought the Irish song was dreadful!

Understandable, because it's really not everyone's thing, but from a technical perspective only Nemo's was close in terms of difficulty.

 

[DRM]

The vocal performance was poor, and that should be a pre requisite.
Will a homoerotic performance win over the Eurovision crowds?

I feel 99.9% certain that this is really a Eurovision lip sync contest, no live singing takes place, so I think you can't really judge the vocal performance, only as a recording, no one can dance like any of the acts do without sounding like an asthmatic pit pony by a quarter of the way in to the performance, I think it was Norway that had an established band representing them (could be mistaken country wise)but they were running & jumping around playing guitars that weren't plugged in ! and iirc a trumpeter opened the song playing the scale, not pressing the valves in the way he did do you get the scale out of a trumpet, but you just have to take it as face value, a bit of fun, nonsense entertainment

 

[Cathryn]

I think Eurovision is playing a dangerous game, catering for more adult tastes. It'll be fine for 10 years but if parents stop letting their children watch it, it'll die off. I fully accept I'm more old-fashioned than many, but there's no way I'd let my young child watch at least 1/3 of the acts from Saturday night - I was dying inside thinking of the children in my class watching it. I really miss the family friendly show that I grew up loving.

 

[Legs]

TBF very few of the acts were overtly raunchy, the notable exceptions being Spain (which at least had a sense of fun about it) and UK (which, besides being an atrocious song, was borderline pornographic in its presentation).

 

[DRM]

there was the dreadful Windows 95 bloke, an appalling song, with someone running around sans strides, utter tripe that only got there to be funny/shock factor but was really just cringey, the shorts he put back on made him look like the hairdresser from Benidorm

 

[icowden]

I feel 99.9% certain that this is really a Eurovision lip sync contest, no live singing takes place, so I think you can't really judge the vocal performance, only as a recording,

Except that the rules are very strict that the lead singer must be singing live and anyone else singing on stage must also be singing live.

All songs shall be performed live on the stage in the Host City at the selected Venue with recorded Backing Tracks.
No on-stage Contestant (whether Lead Singer(s), or dancers) shall be allowed to lip-sync in such a way as to give the impression that they are singing when they actually are not.
No pitch-correction (e.g. Auto-tuning) for live vocals shall be allowed in any case for the live Act performances on stage.
Plugging instruments to play live on stage shall not be allowed. The Host Broadcaster and the ESC Executive Supervisor shall verify respect for this rule.

no one can dance like any of the acts do without sounding like an asthmatic pit pony by a quarter of the way in to the performance,

You need to get out more and see more live singers. The really good performers are incredibly fit and well trained.

I think it was Norway that had an established band representing them (could be mistaken country wise)but they were running & jumping around playing guitars that weren't plugged in ! and iirc a trumpeter opened the song playing the scale, not pressing the valves in the way he did do you get the scale out of a trumpet, but you just have to take it as face value, a bit of fun, nonsense entertainment

Instruments are not voices. Instruments can be on stage but must not be played live. Hence the jumping around with them. It's a shame actually that you can't have live musicians.

 

[AndyRM]

Except that the rules are very strict that the lead singer must be singing live and anyone else singing on stage must also be singing live.



You need to get out more and see more live singers. The really good performers are incredibly fit and well trained.

Instruments are not voices. Instruments can be on stage but must not be played live. Hence the jumping around with them. It's a shame actually that you can't have live musicians.

100% this. Especially the bit about live singers. To use just one example, look at Iron Maiden live. Massive energy levels, spot on vocals and musicianship, and they're all pensioners.

 

[DRM]

Except that the rules are very strict that the lead singer must be singing live and anyone else singing on stage must also be singing live.



You need to get out more and see more live singers. The really good performers are incredibly fit and well trained.

Instruments are not voices. Instruments can be on stage but must not be played live. Hence the jumping around with them. It's a shame actually that you can't have live musicians.

I know what I saw & it looked very much like lip syncing as some of the mouthing looked ever so slightly off, and you can definitely tell that live performances are still that, as even the best live acts don't dance or run about as much as that, yet still sound sound breathless and have buckets of sweat pouring off them.

 

[AndyRM]

I know what I saw & it looked very much like lip syncing as some of the mouthing looked ever so slightly off, and you can definitely tell that live performances are still that, as even the best live acts don't dance or run about as much as that, yet still sound sound breathless and have buckets of sweat pouring off them.

Not after one 3 minute song.

Lead vocals have to be live. Any delay is probably down to the video/audio feedback not quite syncing up which is pretty common in live broadcasts.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I know what I saw & it looked very much like lip syncing as some of the mouthing looked ever so slightly off, and you can definitely tell that live performances are still that, as even the best live acts don't dance or run about as much as that, yet still sound sound breathless and have buckets of sweat pouring off them.

I trust you are not comparing the "best live acts" that perform a full one or two hour set with acts that do one carefully choreographed and rehearsed three minute performance.

They are not OAPs and I think that even at my advanced age I could sing and dance through one song without getting breathless and sweating buckets.

 

[icowden]

I know what I saw & it looked very much like lip syncing as some of the mouthing looked ever so slightly off, and you can definitely tell that live performances are still that, as even the best live acts don't dance or run about as much as that, yet still sound sound breathless and have buckets of sweat pouring off them.

The clincher is the poor vocals from Olly and at least one other act had some very flat notes (might have been the Estonian Fathers4 Justice band).