"Entry level" nonsense

[fossyant]

Bonj, that's a 'proper' gas pipe hack... given the price of steel, you might make a bob or two.

 

[yenrod]

Yuh even get 'FREE TAPE' with that saddle !

 

[Keith Oates]

I wouldn't buy it, the colour is not red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Abitrary]

I think most sensible people read 'entry level' as cheap.

In the same way as they read medium fries as the smallest ones.

 

[Dave5N]

I reckon seventies/eighties Super Record is still a cut above Sora!!!!!

(sorry, I got a bit Keith there)

 

[Mortiroloboy]

oh do **** off

living language, the phrases mean what the mean, nothing more unless you choose them to mean more

ffs

Well put

 

[mickle]

Why do certain plonkers in the cycling world use this loathsome ponced up piece of Americanized marketing gibberish "entry level" when referring to cheap bikes.

Thats me told then.

 

[4F]

Let's see: First road bike a Carlton Giro. 10 speed 52,42, Steel wheels, steel frame, Weinman brakes, French rear shifter (forget the name, really cheap), friction downtube shifters, rock hard moulded plastic saddle (which I never changed), cottered cranks, bolted on wheels and that was more or less it.

I used it for school, 25 mile journeys to a mates, discovered what cycling was all about, did two tours on it (with p clip rack fitted, homemade canvas panniers with coat hangars for frames - useless and a handlebar bag).

I broke two cranks, ruined three wheels but learned to build my own, found out why you can't just change a chain after a few thousand miles, learned how to take a freewheel apart and fix the pawls, learned to actually use the gears it had, after I'd changed the cheap french mech to a Japanese one and generally had great fun.

It eventually got stolen from my mates driveway

£500 is a top of the range superstar in comparison.

Sounds like my current ride. 12 speed, steel reynolds frame, weinmann brakes, sachs huret mech, downtube shifters. Rides like a dream and a I
absolutely love it !

 

[Oldlegs]

In road bike terms entry level means enough to get you into Cat 4 racing. Seems a reasonable definition of a specification to me but whatever.

 

[simoncc]

'Entry level' is meant to make the potential buyer of such a product feel that he will embark on an inevitable series of purchases rather than just one isolated purchase. The implied message from the seller is that if you are satisfied with an entry level purchase you are quite possibly mean, poverty stricken or a bit fuddy-duddy and dull for resisting the normal modern need to 'upgrade' as soon as you can afford to.

 

[mickle]

Its just a term which is used to describe cheapshit bikes without upsetting tightwads.

 

[simoncc]

Its just a term which is used to describe cheapshit bikes without upsetting tightwads.

I've got what the O2 shop assistant described to me as an entry level mobile phone (£19.99 for the phone and £10 credit for 'loyalty to O2'). It can send and receive phone calls. Why enter any other level of the market?

 

[Chris James]

Chris that's the one. Do they still exist?

Sorry Crackle, a bit slow off the mark on this one!

Yes, they do, sort of. They are owned by SRAM. See the link below.

http://www.sram.com/en/about/history.php

 

[sheddy]

BTW are all Durex products marketed as Entry Level ?

 

[bianco]

BTW are all Durex products marketed as Entry Level ?

They've over come that barrier now!