Energy bill increases

[Deleted member 26715]

Octopus are already trying this, although it's not started yet, maybe they got early wind of the scheme,

I'm not sure exactly how it will work, maybe they will take your average on a Tuesday night for the last 4 weeks between 6 & 8, then set you a target for next Tuesday between 6 & 8 to reduce that by 50%.

Like all blanket schemes there will be winners, losers & those who call foul.

 

[cougie uk]

Details from Octopus on how they work out the energy savings.

"We’ll look at your historical smart meter data leading up to a Session, and calculate what you usually use at that time of day, on average.

If the Session is on a weekday, we’ll look at your half-hourly usage over the last 10 weekdays (excluding saving session days). If the Session is on a weekend, we’ll look at your half hourly usage over the last 4 weekend days. These half hourly averages are then subject to an ‘In Day Adjustment’ which will make adjustments based on how much energy you’ve used on the day of the session.

We then use these adjusted half-hourly averages as a benchmark – so you’ll earn points for every kilowatt hour you save during your Session."

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Details from Octopus on how they work out the energy savings.

"We’ll look at your historical smart meter data leading up to a Session, and calculate what you usually use at that time of day, on average.

If the Session is on a weekday, we’ll look at your half-hourly usage over the last 10 weekdays (excluding saving session days). If the Session is on a weekend, we’ll look at your half hourly usage over the last 4 weekend days. These half hourly averages are then subject to an ‘In Day Adjustment’ which will make adjustments based on how much energy you’ve used on the day of the session.

We then use these adjusted half-hourly averages as a benchmark – so you’ll earn points for every kilowatt hour you save during your Session."

Be interesting it we have 10 poor solar days before & then a corker on the Session day

 

[jowwy]

Be interesting it we have 10 poor solar days before & then a corker on the Session day

Thats what i was thinking…..im cooking in the house on electric for the next few weeks and will then switch to outside on gas during session days

 

[Buck]

Nice to get a saving if possible. That £100 will make a real difference for some for just a small shift in behaviours.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Unfortunately as a cynic of capitalism I have to wonder if this is the first introduction of time based rates, They entice people to reduce rates at peak times then when they realise people can reduce need at peak times that put the price up at those times.

 

[Buck]

In a way it makes sense.
We’ve had Economy 7 electricity for a long time and more broadly, off peak train tickets, meal deals and drinks.

If it means a better use of electricity with minimal inconvenience (no hardship in putting your washer on earlier or later?) then it’s difficult to argue against.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

In a way it makes sense.
We’ve had Economy 7 electricity for a long time and more broadly, off peak train tickets, meal deals and drinks.

If it means a better use of electricity with minimal inconvenience (no hardship in putting your washer on earlier or later?) then it’s difficult to argue against.

Agreed if that's the goal, again the cynic thinks it's more about profit & saving money by not having to build more equipment, than saving the planet.

 

[cougie uk]

Agreed if that's the goal, again the cynic thinks it's more about profit & saving money by not having to build more equipment, than saving the planet.

Probably a bit of both.

 

[Buck]

^this.

I hope that they rebalance their profit into supporting those who are poorer and genuinely think of heat or eat each day.

Then there’s the standing charge which should be a % of each KWh used as that is a true reflection of your use of the grid.

We have become used to “cheap” energy and if there is one glimmer of hope from all of this, it is that we have become more energy aware and recognise that other options I.e. solar are actually financially viable and good for the environment too.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Then there’s the standing charge which should be a % of each KWh used as that is a true reflection of your use of the grid.

I equate this the VED on cars it should all be on fuel

 

[Low Gear Guy]

Agreed if that's the goal, again the cynic thinks it's more about profit & saving money by not having to build more equipment, than saving the planet.

That comes down to the same thing. The construction of power generators and the distribution system requires the use of heavy plant equipment with a big carbon footprint.

 

[cyberknight]

FIL is unhappy , hes cut back so much hes always cold.
Told mrs ck hes welcome here all day any day as although we are in jumpers etc im not going to freeze .He does live in a big 3 bed house all on his own now since MIL died but he doesnt want to move due to memories .

 

[cougie uk]

FIL is unhappy , hes cut back so much hes always cold.
Told mrs ck hes welcome here all day any day as although we are in jumpers etc im not going to freeze .He does live in a big 3 bed house all on his own now since MIL died but he doesnt want to move due to memories .

Can you give his house a bit of an energy audit maybe ?
Make sure he's got low energy lightbulbs - it's easy to waste energy for little benefit.

 

[cyberknight]

Can you give his house a bit of an energy audit maybe ?
Make sure he's got low energy lightbulbs - it's easy to waste energy for little benefit.

he has but all the stuff is linked via multiple alexas controlling the lights etc , his gas bill has trebled though and hes worried to turn it on