Energy bill increases

[mjr]

Sadly, mostly outside of UK juristiction.

Multinationals, transfer pricing and UK taxpayers funding decommissioning strike again. I think BP still pays some UK tax, but Shell and Exxon don't. Who else?

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Multinationals, transfer pricing and UK taxpayers funding decommissioning strike again. I think BP still pays some UK tax, but Shell and Exxon don't. Who else?

No idea tbh.

My comment was in relation to Shell - which we seem to agree on.

 

[mjr]

No idea tbh.

My comment was in relation to Shell - which we seem to agree on.

Agree, with the possible exception of "sadly" if it suggests this is misfortune, because this didn't happen by chance. The UK gov only pays Shell so much for decommissioning since a 2015 policy change, for similar reasons given for no windfall/superprofits/solidarity taxes now.

 

[Chislenko]

So, further to my post some time back I have today received an email from Scottish Power saying they have sent the October £66.00 Government Support to my bank account.

Why not just leave it sitting on your energy account as I feel sure that some people will spend it on other things.

As an aside though, I wonder when Scottish Power received this money from the government, as they have transferred it to me on the last working day of October which means it won't hit my bank until November.

If you take £66.00 and multiply it by the hundreds of thousands of customers they have, if the government sent them this money let's say early October that is a tidy sum they have been sitting on.

I may be being cynical, they may have only just received it from the government, but I doubt it.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

So, further to my post some time back I have today received an email from Scottish Power saying they have sent the October £66.00 Government Support to my bank account.

Why not just leave it sitting on your energy account as I feel sure that some people will spend it on other things.

As an aside though, I wonder when Scottish Power received this money from the government, as they have transferred it to me on the last working day of October which means it won't hit my bank until November.

If you take £66.00 and multiply it by the hundreds of thousands of customers they have, if the government sent them this money let's say early October that is a tidy sum they have been sitting on.

I may be being cynical, they may have only just received it from the government, but I doubt it.

That's odd - we use Scottish Power and the support money has been credited to our account.

 

[Chislenko]

That's odd - we use Scottish Power and the support money has been credited to our account.

Which to me is the sensible way to do it to deter people from spending it on other things.

Here is the start of the email.




"We're pleased to confirm that we've sent your Energy Bills Support Scheme discount of £66.00 as a refund to your bank today. Please allow a few working days for this credit to be shown in your bank account."

 

[jowwy]

My first Bill with octopus and its all wrong......trying to put it right, but they say its all ok. Last thing i want down the line is a huge gas bill due to their error.

This is for gas not electric

 

[fossyant]

My first Bill with octopus and its all wrong......trying to put it right, but they say its all ok. Last thing i want down the line is a huge gas bill due to their error.

This is for gas not electric

Just watch your use - I double check mine with a spreadsheet.

How's folk's 'energy use' going ?

I'm fairly happy we've cut electricity to 12 KW a day - still a lot to many but 4 adults and gaming PC's in use. That's £140 in the month at the new rates. Gas is, of course going up with use, but it's still OK - £68 this month at the new rates. Would have been less than £40 at the old rate

Still overpaying by about £130 based on this last month and SP still saying I'm not paying enough. I'll be over £650 in credit as of this week. I'm excluding the £66 off as that is paid back into the bank.

 

[kipster]

I use the Hugo app to keep an eye on my usage and cross ref with Octopus bills. It uses the same Smart meter data that Octopus get.

I've just got some smart plugs with monitoring so slowing trying to find out what's using the most electric. It'll take a while and I suspect the biggest culprit for overnight usage is my son!

The solar has kept my electricity usage down and I've only been using gas for hot water. I haven't changed my DD since i've had solar, as i wanted to see all the data before working out what it should be.

This has meant I've built up a credit with Octopus, currently £800 and waiting for the solar export to get credited. My DD is £200 (£134 + government £66).

Since the solar was installed I feel I've become a little (or lot) blase with electric usage, this will have to change as I go through the winter and a lack of solar production and much more import.

 

[vickster]

Just watch your use - I double check mine with a spreadsheet.

How's folk's 'energy use' going ?

I'm fairly happy we've cut electricity to 12 KW a day - still a lot to many but 4 adults and gaming PC's in use. That's £140 in the month at the new rates. Gas is, of course going up with use, but it's still OK - £68 this month at the new rates. Would have been less than £40 at the old rate

Still overpaying by about £130 based on this last month and SP still saying I'm not paying enough. I'll be over £650 in credit as of this week. I'm excluding the £66 off as that is paid back into the bank.

Octopus Supergreen tariff ... 1-28 Oct, used £42.86 worth of electricity (146kWh) and £22.22 gas (287kWh, heating still hasn't been on, so that's water and hob). My account is £124.70 and with the Govt contribution, monthly payment is £24.72

Think I went to the office once maybe twice in Oct?, so wah 5 days a week

 

[jowwy]

Octopus Supergreen tariff ... 1-28 Oct, used £42.86 worth of electricity (141kWh) and £22.22 gas (276kWh, heating still hasn't been on, so that's water and hob). My account is £124.70 and with the Govt contribution, monthly payment is £24.72

Think I went to the office once maybe twice in Oct?, so wah 5 days a week

Thats pretty good tariffs for elec and gas........

 

[jowwy]

My energy use is way down now due to solar being installed and the heating settings dropped to 19.5* .

But octopus got the gas calculations wrong and if i didn't tell them, i could have had a massive bill in the future, which i wanted to avoid. Its all sorted now and with paying a variable direct debit and having a huge amount in credit. I shouldn't have to pay another electric or gas bill this winter with the £66 coming from the government each month until march.

 

[vickster]

Thats pretty good tariffs for elec and gas........

Yep I fixed about a year ago (pay a little more to have an all renewable tariff), year to go

 

[DaveReading]

I've just got some smart plugs with monitoring so slowing trying to find out what's using the most electric. It'll take a while and I suspect the biggest culprit for overnight usage is my son!

If it's any help, smartplugs typically have functionality whereby they can be switched on/off via your home network.

 

[si_c]

If it's any help, smartplugs typically have functionality whereby they can be switched on/off via your home network.

Smart sockets might be a better choice... smart plugs can just be well, unplugged.