Endurance training

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Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
I personally dont think its poor training, like the nutrition products you can buy - it's overrated. Head over to Obree's site or read his book.

My main concerns for this advise Robert are:

  • You mention 'on the front of the group' - so your in a club, this may not apply to solo riders then, and your benefits from this give a skewed figure. Take a mph or two off if your not working in a group.
  • Like myself, Paul may not be as fit as you are so 50 miles or thereabouts pumping out 18mph is going to be a challenge especially if this is not on the flats.


I am not suggesting he rides at the speeds I ride, I am suggesting he ups the intensity so that he is actually working, not rolling about sniffing for cakes!

Whether you are in a club or not, you can ride at a given intensity level, in fact it is more difficult (logistically) to train this way in a group because not everyone will have the same fitness. 50 miles at 80%, solo is 50 miles at 80%.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Each to their own. I have read many books and found lots to be contradictory or poor, the only negative with Mr Obree's manual is it was expensive.
Expensive for a book that isn't a training manual too. Even the reduced kindle version was an expensive but comically worthwhile buy.
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
I am not suggesting he rides at the speeds I ride, I am suggesting he ups the intensity so that he is actually working, not rolling about sniffing for cakes! Whether you are in a club or not, you can ride at a given intensity level, in fact it is more difficult (logistically) to train this way in a group because not everyone will have the same fitness.

The main problem has already been highlighted, he originally did not specify his goal. Now this has been cleared up, rolling around and sniffing cakes is definitely not going to improve anyones ability.
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
Factually this is steering off course. I also mentioned taking a look at his site and beside the point you have purchased it and like it :scratch:. I recall Obree mentioning his Jam sandwiches instead of fancy nutritional products from some source, this is why I mentioned it. I can also recommend - The Time-crunched Cyclist or even Pete Reid's Black Book. Just in case you think I like Obree or his pink bike!
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Factually this is steering off course. I also mentioned taking a look at his site and beside the point you have purchased it and like it :scratch:. I recall Obree mentioning his Jam sandwiches instead of fancy nutritional products from some source, this is why I mentioned it. I can also recommend - The Time-crunched Cyclist or even Pete Reid's Black Book. Just in case you think I like Obree or his pink bike!
I never said I liked it. I said it had comedic value as in being "laughable"
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Oh well at least you purchased it, just as laughable in his eyes.
I feel sorry for the mugs who paid full price for a "Training Manual" and got precisely fook all training advice.

Even more laughable in his eyes. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
I enjoyed the read, like I already mentioned - a bit steep! Now stop advertising his "Training Manual"! :hello:
 
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