"Driver calls 999 to report a cyclist for refusing to leap out of her way"
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matticus
Guru
Either party could have defused the situation at any time - they didn't. They both wanted to make something out of it.
Meanwhile, the driver was in the wrong; there is no obligation to immediately let faster vehicles past. If there was, horse boxes would average 12 miles per day on any journey. She was stuck behind him for a few seconds, not several minutes.
I doubt she will stop and challenge (or overtake and shout out of her window) another driver the next time she is delayed by a tiny amount.
Meanwhile, the driver was in the wrong; there is no obligation to immediately let faster vehicles past. If there was, horse boxes would average 12 miles per day on any journey. She was stuck behind him for a few seconds, not several minutes.
I doubt she will stop and challenge (or overtake and shout out of her window) another driver the next time she is delayed by a tiny amount.
Cyclist - nuff said.
Craig the cyclist
Über Member
I get what you are saying, but honestly I have had situations when my girlfriend (very petite) has been either ahead or behind me (to be honest, mostly ahead
) and had drivers beeping, revving and shouting and all sorts, then when they get to me 100m later (quite big, and maybe intimidating I guess) nothing. They just wait patiently. Or they wait behind me, and then rev etc when they catch her up! What is that about?This situation though, why did he stop, just carry on, leave her to it. Jeeezus, both of them are a disgrace!
Being local I have cycled that road more times than I can remember.
Its a lovely road to cycle though it is quite narrow in places but not enough to not let a patient motorist through.
The video was 50/50 imo. Both needlessly wound each other up. Bit silly really.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
She could have just driven on right from the beginning. He could have just kept his trap shut when he shouted about putting her on mytube. Simple. No one would have remembered the incident, 999 wouldn't have been misused and their day would have been just that bit less stressful...
GuyBoden
Guru
- Location
- Warrington
Personally, if I was the cyclist I would have applied the highway code guidance and pulled over and let the car pass.
The Highway Code asks slow moving vehicles to pull in when safe to allow traffic to pass.
Rule 169: "Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. "Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."
The Highway Code asks slow moving vehicles to pull in when safe to allow traffic to pass.
Rule 169: "Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. "Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."
Where was the long queue? I will let a car through when appropriate, but for sure I won’t be bullied off the road.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
I give a small thumbs up to the first oncoming driver in the vid who spotted them messing around and slowed almost to a stop to lessen any chance of a collision.
The cyclist was polite, if a bit tiresome, and he wisely kept his distance from her when they were stopped, making it difficult for her to claim she was threatened.
She has no right to get past, just as she has no right to pass a slower moving car until it's safe to do so.
A pair of chumps, but I'm giving it 60/40 in favour of the cyclist.
The cyclist was polite, if a bit tiresome, and he wisely kept his distance from her when they were stopped, making it difficult for her to claim she was threatened.
She has no right to get past, just as she has no right to pass a slower moving car until it's safe to do so.
A pair of chumps, but I'm giving it 60/40 in favour of the cyclist.
Deleted User
Guest
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- Wolverhampton
Woman-nuff said.
roadrash
cycle chatterer
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- sitting on the edge of wigan pier
As i have said before , there are nob eds in all walks of life , this video has two , one a driver and the other a cyclist. simple as that.
Deleted User
Guest
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- Wolverhampton
C'mon, I'm taking the pee in response to the Volvo/cyclist comment, Jeez!
Nigeyy
Legendary Member
- Location
- Massachusetts, USA
It seems there are a lot of assumptions being thrown out on this one. One thing is for sure, we don't know the full context of the situation, and we just have a particular time window of the event.
But, if I'm judging from the video alone, it's 95-5 in favour of the cyclist. Purely from the video, it seems like she is the one who started the confrontation. If the cyclist didn't feel it was safe for him to pull over to let her pass, then she can wait and he has no obligation to pull over. If I was cycling would I have pulled over/stopped onto the verge to let the car through? I don't know, it depends on the situation but all I can say if I prefer to do that than get a driver angry, even if I theoretically am in the right to continue cycling (it's not worth it). But I don't think any less of the cyclist for not doing that as I don't know the full context. That and the "youtube" comment account for my 5% blame on him. But even then he may have been saying the youtube comment in the belief this would protect him from her doing something rash, knowing she was on video and was being confrontational. And yes, he could have chosen to ignore her commentary, wished her a nice day* and probably that would have been the end of that.
There is no doubt she took the time in a much heavier vehicle to stop and freely point out in how arrogant the cyclist was. I think she used her phone to take a picture while driving. She took the time to pull over (in a bad place too, given there was a safer place to pull over right before where she pulled over) to confront. She called 999 for an extremely clear non-emergency situation. Yeah, that's where the 95% of blame comes from for me.
If we are purely judging just on the video, I'll be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with the victim blaming here. She really could have just gone on her way too.
*I'm sure all of us do that every time something like this happens, right?
But, if I'm judging from the video alone, it's 95-5 in favour of the cyclist. Purely from the video, it seems like she is the one who started the confrontation. If the cyclist didn't feel it was safe for him to pull over to let her pass, then she can wait and he has no obligation to pull over. If I was cycling would I have pulled over/stopped onto the verge to let the car through? I don't know, it depends on the situation but all I can say if I prefer to do that than get a driver angry, even if I theoretically am in the right to continue cycling (it's not worth it). But I don't think any less of the cyclist for not doing that as I don't know the full context. That and the "youtube" comment account for my 5% blame on him. But even then he may have been saying the youtube comment in the belief this would protect him from her doing something rash, knowing she was on video and was being confrontational. And yes, he could have chosen to ignore her commentary, wished her a nice day* and probably that would have been the end of that.
There is no doubt she took the time in a much heavier vehicle to stop and freely point out in how arrogant the cyclist was. I think she used her phone to take a picture while driving. She took the time to pull over (in a bad place too, given there was a safer place to pull over right before where she pulled over) to confront. She called 999 for an extremely clear non-emergency situation. Yeah, that's where the 95% of blame comes from for me.
If we are purely judging just on the video, I'll be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with the victim blaming here. She really could have just gone on her way too.
*I'm sure all of us do that every time something like this happens, right?
From the video it would appear that the cyclist simply held his position.
My approach in a similar situation is to acknowledge the driver behind with a wave and thumbs up and to move over as and when I reach a safe passing option. Then a wave as driver passes.
Friendly negotiation and acknowledgement seem to work best.
Simply holding position can appear arrogant. Getting immediately on the highway code high horse also appears arrogant.
My approach in a similar situation is to acknowledge the driver behind with a wave and thumbs up and to move over as and when I reach a safe passing option. Then a wave as driver passes.
Friendly negotiation and acknowledgement seem to work best.
Simply holding position can appear arrogant. Getting immediately on the highway code high horse also appears arrogant.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
"You will be on YouTube later" Im sorry but he is a bigger twxt than she is. What does he gain from that? 10 seconds of fame. A chance to show some drivers are ignorant of the law. Explain the law if you feel the need and get on your way. Dont threaten people with infamy.
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