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Yes im sure the majority of cyclists are ok and the majority of clubs are ok.
However there are exceptions as is manifestly evident from some of the militant viewpoints expressed in this very topic.
My principal concern is that these inconsiderate cyclists tarnish the reputation of all us good cyclists and you and i have to pay the cost of motorists antipathy.

I think I can count on the fingers of one hand without taking my gloves off the number of times this year as a driver I have come across cyclists cycling two abreast let alone who delayed me at all. Quite how that frequency of occurrence is going to turn the motoring masses against cyclists is beyond me.
 
You ARE Mr Toad ICMFP!

Beep Beep!

Nah, hates cyclists, hates caravans.....its none other than JC himself.
 

freecyclist

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But there are always going to be exceptions in every aspect of life. For women, see TOWIE, for men, see footballers. However, I think the vast majority of drivers have the wherewithal to understand that we are individuals, with an individual thought process.

Yes tilly but the point is that where undesireable behaviour does exist within our cycling fraterntiy we should condemn it not act as apologists for it.
Lets not leave it to chance to hope that drivers give us the benefit of the doubt that we are one of the good cyclists - lets do what we can to deter bad cycling and not regard condemning bad cycling as spineless and making concessions to motorists cos it isnt. (im not saying you do this tilly but some on this forum do seem to)
 

freecyclist

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1588894 said:
Any chance of an observation or reply on this? Anything at all, from your usual standard upwards would do as a start.

ok adrian - i will give you the benefit of the doubt and answer.
Re Dell as you refer to him - i have questioned his stance as stated on page 3 "The general rule is two abreast".
I would hope the sportives are well organised and appropriately supervised. If i am wrong and we are contemplating permitting a freeforall of uncontrolled cycling hooliganism on the roads then i would have to reconsider my position. Are you saying that i have wrongly given sportives to much credit.
My default position is to embrace sportives and group rides but i advocate considerate riding where the interests of other road users is also accomodated . Imho inconsistent with "The general rule is two abreast".
(please no more of the playground bullying from now on - your better than that)
 

freecyclist

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1588902 said:
My observation would be a tendency for some to get a little overexcited and carried away with themselves on sportives, to the extent that they represent a danger to themselves and others.

If this is on public roads open to traffic as normal that would be a bit concerning.
 
Surely it is ok to ride like this, i see plenty of drivers doing it each day.
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I saw someone doing that once in black tie and looking a bit drunk.

I was just waiting for him to fall off as I was walking on the other side of the road which he duly did in comical fashion. I ran across to make sure he was alright which he was fortunately, although he looked very embarassed and ended up pushing the bikes home.

Probably hurt in the morning.
 

freecyclist

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Freecyclist, what are your thoughts on pavement cyclists?

So long as its done ok i have no problem with it.
Where its done that causes a problem then its wrong but i dont condemn it perse just because the highway code tells me its wrong.
Personally as a rule i use the road but i woudnt exclude using the pavement if i had good cause and could do so without causing inconvenience or distress to pedestrians.
Why do you ask ?
 

Andy84

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I don't understand what the problem is with Dell's post. If there is no traffic around then what's wrong with 2-abreast? It would be daft to make single-file the default just in case there's a car way off in the distance.

Cycle in your preferred way, and then respond to any traffic appropriately when it should arrive.
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And if its a night ride, then there are significantly less cars that may arrive, so less cars to be annoyed about our "undesirable behaviour" - we should be like gods to Freecyclist!
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
So long as its done ok i have no problem with it.
Where its done that causes a problem then its wrong but i dont condemn it perse just because the highway code tells me its wrong.
Personally as a rule i use the road but i woudnt exclude using the pavement if i had good cause and could do so without causing inconvenience or distress to pedestrians.
Why do you ask ?

It's illegal.

I'm not condemning you by saying this, just giving you a heads up that if you get caught (by some one who is bothered by it) you will get a fine.
 
Odd how FC condemns legal cycling that is specifically accepted in the Highway Code but finds illegal cycling to be acceptable.
 
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