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blackgoff

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Where there is money, in any area of life, in cycling in this instance, their'll always be cheating, whether in amateur avenues or professional' of which they're now connected via the UCI.

I actually feel sorry for pros as some of them most be clean yet we fans doubt them and when you're putting not just your body but alot more on the line then they must hate the distrust.
 
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On WADA's 2017 Banned list???????

Wada's 2016 watch list?
Stimulants
  • Bupropion - anti-depressant
  • Caffeine - banned for 20 years until 2004
  • Nicotine
  • Phenylephrine and phenylpropanolamine - decongestants
  • Pipradrol - counters fatigue
  • Synephrine - found in weight-loss and energy products
Narcotics
  • Mitragynine - natural occurring plant compound said to aid recovery
  • Tramadol - strong painkiller
Glucocorticoids - anti-inflammatories

Telmisartan - used for high blood pressure
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So I personally don't find Wiggens comment

“British Cycling are really on the ball – Richard Freeman, the doctor – in terms of things that have been changed, saying: ‘Please don’t take this any more.’”
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surprising as 50% are things that "people" use if not every day then regularly

Notwithstanding that If you were a athlete in a testing regime then I would of thought it would be prudent that you would be on top of it
 
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psmiffy said:
On WADA's 2017 Banned list???????



So I personally don't find Wiggens comment



surprising as 50% are things that "people" use if not every day then regularly

Notwithstanding that I you were a athlete in a testing regime then I would of thought it would be prudent that you would be on top of it
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Zero excuse for a highly paid athlete in any sport to be without medical support and for them not to keep up with the latest WADA rules. Not to do that might result in professional suicide. As for a lady tennis players excuse, well if you have been in bike racing all your life there is almost no excuse that has not been tried by the stupid and plain cheaters. None work, If it's in your body, who is responsible?
 
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Just seen on twitter that the Sunday Times are running a story from some doctor claiming he has helped over 150 UK athletes dope, including "Tour de France" cyclists...a quick online check reveals him to be Mark Bonar, who the Daily Mail (sorry) revealed "kept dying patient in the dark about her terminal cancer and told her she'd have to wait for NHS treatment so he could keep charging her for unconventional nutrition therapy" in December of last year. He sounds an utter daffodil.

edit - further enquiry online indicates he is a daffodil of the highest order. And more than a little "Walter Mitty"
 
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Marmion said:
Just seen on twitter that the Sunday Times are running a story from some doctor claiming he has helped over 150 UK athletes dope, including "Tour de France" cyclists...a quick online check reveals him to be Mark Bonar, who the Daily Mail (sorry) revealed "kept dying patient in the dark about her terminal cancer and told her she'd have to wait for NHS treatment so he could keep charging her for unconventional nutrition therapy" in December of last year. He sounds an utter daffodil.

edit - further enquiry online indicates he is a daffodil of the highest order. And more than a little "Walter Mitty"
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I'm still waiting for the Fuentes names. Unless he has evidence of names I'm not sure we'll get these ones.
 
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ItsSteveLovell said:
I don't know why he was treating footballers, there is no need to dope in football as its a skill game
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Yeah, strength, speed and stamina don't help at all(!)

Also, he says he was treating them, yet no sportspeople were identified to UK ADA, which is why they passed it to the General Medical Council: they had no jurisdiction.
 
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ItsSteveLovell said:
I don't know why he was treating footballers, there is no need to dope in football as its a skill game
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But if you can continue to run at full tilt for the full 90+ minutes without losing your skill level that is invaluable. Looks at the Barcelona teams that won European Cups, constant pressing for the full games that seemed almost impossible. Yes the players are all highly skilled but being able to keep on it for the full game is better than doing it for just 70 minutes and hanging on to the game from there.
 
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Booyaa said:
But if you can continue to run at full tilt for the full 90+ minutes without losing your skill level that is invaluable. Looks at the Barcelona teams that won European Cups, constant pressing for the full games that seemed almost impossible. Yes the players are all highly skilled but being able to keep on it for the full game is better than doing it for just 70 minutes and hanging on to the game from there.
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But with the really tight doping controls footballers are under they would have been found! Next you'll be saying that tennis players are at it as well
 
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