Doping git thread

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rich p

rich p

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Flying_Monkey said:
Well at 44, he's only going to be getting better, isn't he? ;)
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Davide Rebellin is still at it at 44 too.
By, 'at it', I mean cycling professionally of course...
 
Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Fnaar said:
1970s hidden motor (it's a bit noisy!!!) Vid in French, but pretty self explanatory
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And that's more hidden than some of the recent dismissive claims about current tech. That was 40 years ago. Given advances in bike, battery and electric vehicle technology in that time, we are probably looking at really very subtle mechanisms now.
 
deptfordmarmoset

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Flying_Monkey said:
And that's more hidden than some of the recent dismissive claims about current tech. That was 40 years ago. Given advances in bike, battery and electric vehicle technology in that time, we are probably looking at really very subtle mechanisms now.
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And surprisingly advanced for back then. Ride-chargeable batteries too.
 
Berk on a Bike

Berk on a Bike

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Yorkshire
It seems the threat of a team suspension for Katusha has been lifted after it was ruled Paolini's cocaine bust was as a result of "social" or "recreational" use. And yet, by the team's own admission he was taking it to counter the effects of sleeping pills i.e. as a stimulant.
As ever Inrng is all over it.
 
Pro Tour Punditry

Pro Tour Punditry

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Not much changes at the UCI, as spineless with Cookson as with previous Presidents.
 
Flying_Monkey

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Berk on a Bike said:
It seems the threat of a team suspension for Katusha has been lifted after it was ruled Paolini's cocaine bust was as a result of "social" or "recreational" use. And yet, by the team's own admission he was taking it to counter the effects of sleeping pills i.e. as a stimulant.
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I don't think it's actually unreasonable in the case of Paolini, who clearly is a particular case that has as much to do with mental illness as anything else; it's really whether Katusha are getting away with doping more generally. The point is that the UCI can't just suspend Katusha because they suspect them and 'everyone know they are wrong 'uns'...
 
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Flying_Monkey said:
I don't think it's actually unreasonable in the case of Paolini, who clearly is a particular case that has as much to do with mental illness as anything else; it's really whether Katusha are getting away with doping more generally. The point is that the UCI can't just suspend Katusha because they suspect them and 'everyone know they are wrong 'uns'...
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They are not following their own rules, unless I have missed something?
 
Flying_Monkey

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Marmion said:
They are not following their own rules, unless I have missed something?
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They are following their own rules, because Paolini's case is not being considered as a case of 'performance enhancement', but instead 'recreational'. In fact, it's neither, but they don't have a category for drug use caused by mental distress...

I'm a bit surprised at the lack of sympathy for Paolini here, but as someone who also has suffered from mental illness myself, it's not entirely unexpected IME.
 
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Paolini is banned under anti-doping rules so it's a doping violation. If it wasn't he wouldn't be. Therefore this is a 2nd violation. Under the UCI rules, Katusha should be excluded. They're ducking the rule and they're either ducking it because it's a shoot rule and they now realize that or they're ducking it for more Machiavellian reasons to do with influence and conflict of interest and none of that has anything to do with Paolini needing some sympathy and help, after all, he remains banned no matter what the decision. It remains to be seen whether Katusha will suspend themselves under the voluntary MPCC code.
 
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