Doping git thread

[mjr]

So despite the rumours, it's still good old epo that's the weapon of choice.

If epo's the weapon of choice, users should be obvious from their behaviour in the hotel:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

 

[cisamcgu]

A general question really, but what is the most "obvious" example of doping ? By this I mean, who has been mediocre (not that any professional cyclist is mediocre, but you know what I mean) for all of their career and then suddenly sprouts wings and flies like a bird, climbs like a goat, rides like the wind ... - it has to be someone subsequently found to be doping, not just a suspect, not matter how suspect they may be

 

[roadrash]

Cough... Chris Horner.... cough

 

[cisamcgu]

Did he get caught doping ?

 

[roadrash]

No but god knows how he didnt

 

[smutchin]

Michael Rasmussen springs to mind - kicked out of the Tour and fired by his team while wearing the yellow jersey, though not for failing a test, rather for lying about his whereabouts, though he did later admit to doping.

I also remember a few years ago Danilo "Killer" Diluca and Mauro Santambrogio tearing up the first week of the Giro while riding for the makeweight Vini Fantini team. It was a great surprise to everyone when they were busted. Not.

Bjarne "Mr 60%" Riis is another classic example of a fairly ordinary rider who miraculously became a Grand Tour champion.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

A general question really, but what is the most "obvious" example of doping ? By this I mean, who has been mediocre (not that any professional cyclist is mediocre, but you know what I mean) for all of their career and then suddenly sprouts wings and flies like a bird, climbs like a goat, rides like the wind ... - it has to be someone subsequently found to be doping, not just a suspect, not matter how suspect they may be

Armstrong

 

[cisamcgu]

But Armstrong was always a good, perhaps always doping, but he didn't leap out of no-where ?

 

[rich p]

But Armstrong was always a good, perhaps always doping, but he didn't leap out of no-where ?

You're never going to win the tdf, if that's what you're asking but a few percentage additions can transform a decent pro rider.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

But Armstrong was always a good, perhaps always doping, but he didn't leap out of no-where ?

No he wasn't; his first 4 Tours de France included 3 x DNF and 36th. And then he got "serious"...

 

[cisamcgu]

No he wasn't; his first 4 Tours de France included 3 x DNF and 36th. And then he got "serious"...

Fair enough

 

[Bollo]

So despite the rumours, it's still good old epo that's the weapon of choice.

It’s like the drugging equivalent of L’Eroica.

 

[mjr]

Landis went from mid-table à la Zubeldia to winning GCs between the 2005&6 seasons, then his final Tour de France yoyo was pretty epic. Blood doping hadn't been enough so he resorted to testosterone use IIRC. He returned in 2010 to find his true level, taking 2nd on GC at Tour of the Battenkill (a US pro-am 100km) and 4th at Tour of Southland (then a NZ national series race).

 

[BalkanExpress]

I wonder if Sky had any inkling. They dumped somebody else who later tested +ve. Possoni?

Possibly. Although He has been gone from Sky for almost 3 years.

Richard Moore on the cycling podcast suggested that as KS was out of contract at the end of the season and likely to retire he had nothing to lose

 

[rich p]

You've got to admire WADA's stamina!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-continues-battle-to-name-athletes-involved-in-operacion-puerto/