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carlosfandangus

Über Member
Roads are busier here today, the restrictions have been lifted slightly today, construction and associated business can go back to work if they can maintain a safe distance, non essential journeys can now be made as long as distance is maintained at the end of your journey and you are all the same household travelling, borders to remain closed for the foreseeable
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Hoping roads near me do get busier, as apparently a whole load are going to be surface dressed and if traffic stays light it's going to be ages before they are safe to cycle on:sad:
 
Location
Hampshire
Not sure why Wales needs stricter lock down rules than the rest of the country, also the new guidance seems decidedly wooly to me i.e. 'don't cycle more than walking distance from home'.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Amid the various panics, including here, about transmission outdoors, here's the only study I've seen which evaluates this.

2 out of 7000 cases were associated with outdoors transmission. They were from a conversation held outdoors.

The Welsh policy of apparently discouraging cycling is nuts.

The panic over joggers passing within 2m is nuts.
 

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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
And don’t crawl further than drooling distance if you’re a baby - and can read the guidelines...

and don’t drive further than you can walk. In which case, don’t drive at all😁
 
Amid the various panics, including here, about transmission outdoors, here's the only study I've seen which evaluates this.

2 out of 7000 cases were associated with outdoors transmission. They were from a conversation held outdoors.

The Welsh policy of apparently discouraging cycling is nuts.

The panic over joggers passing within 2m is nuts.

There is definitely overkill with the limits on outdoor exercise, especially in Wales, if virtually all transmissions occur indoors. The rules strike me as similar to those our schoolteachers used to use - "if some of you can't behave we'll punish all of you".

There are gangs of youngsters meet up around our area (tbf, I probably would have done the same at their age to relieve the monotony), there are at least two houses in our street that have had friends around this week, the supermarkets have people wandering all around the lanes ignoring social distancing. We are not in an authoritarian state and these things are hard to police effectively.

In Wales we are now not supposed to exercise in public parks, cyclists in city centres will be forced to go for more rides around the streets in traffic for exercise and since exercise implies some exertion tiredness is likely to make it more dangerous than riding a bit further into the countryside.

While I have to accept the restrictions I do resent the fact that they are coming over as a belated attempt by the government to cover their ar*es following their incompetence with testing and tracing early on in the crisis.

The government says it is following the science, but I am not sure that is true with Dominic Cummings on the SAGE scientific advisory group - which is supposed to be made up of scientists. It will be impossible for him not to try to influence it for political gain.

Rant over, deep breath........
 
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Lots of people are choosing to wilfully misinterpret this new guidance or point out that "walking distance" is a meaningless term.
For me, Fort William is technically within walking distance, but I wouldn't much care to walk 95 miles while pushing a road bike and wearing SPD-SLs.

It's arguably less problematic if you have a partner or a member of your household who can come and rescue you*, not everyone has that, I don't, and it wouldn't be fair of me to ask anyone to break social distancing rules or put those key workers who rely on public transport at risk because I got stranded 10 miles from home.

* Although this is also an unnecessary journey that carries its own risks, but that's a discussion for another time

As it stands, the government guidelines are very generous when compared to other countries, people are being given far too many opportunities to take the piß. I include myself in that.
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
Lots of people are choosing to wilfully misinterpret this new guidance or point out that "walking distance" is a meaningless term.
For me, Fort William is technically within walking distance, but I wouldn't much care to walk 95 miles while pushing a road bike and wearing SPD-SLs.

It's arguably less problematic if you have a partner or a member of your household who can come and rescue you*, not everyone has that, I don't, and it wouldn't be fair of me to ask anyone to break social distancing rules or put those key workers who rely on public transport at risk because I got stranded 10 miles from home.

* Although this is also an unnecessary journey that carries its own risks, but that's a discussion for another time

As it stands, the government guidelines are very generous when compared to other countries, people are being given far too many opportunities to take the piß. I include myself in that.
Same boat here with nobody to call on and many taxis not working either. Suppose at a pinch Iain over the road might pick me up in the back of his van if I was really stuck, but would hate to ask.
 

I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
In reality you've got more chance of winning the lottery than having a catastrophic breakdown that means you can’t get back home. Even completely broken drivetrain you can still scoot your bike much faster than walking.
Went out for a family sanity/exercise ride this evening. 16 miles of towpath and country park trails and I decided to live dangerously. Rather than my usual toolkit, chain links, puncture kit, spare tubes and pump, I just packed the pump and an inner tube. Based on previous experience that would be more than enough.... We lived to tell the tale :whistle:
 
Location
London
In reality you've got more chance of winning the lottery than having a catastrophic breakdown that means you can’t get back home. Even completely broken drivetrain you can still scoot your bike much faster than walking.
agree - walking thro the woolwich foot tunnel nattering to a cyclist (2 m or more apart) he said he was severely limiting rides because of concerns about mechanicals.When i asked what he was worried about, he said a rear mech issue for instance. Made no sense to me. Even i could sort a perfectly rideable bodge. And most of london is of course flat.
 
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