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T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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John Bacchus wont be happy!
I'm not sure of the reference 😂
 

BigMeatball

Senior Member
There may be regional differences in compliance but nationally the number of fines is at a record high so it was wrong to conclude that as a result of the introduction of fines 👇
Yes sure, I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just meant that the fines solved the problem quickly everywhere in Italy at first, but then differences between regions came up.

I guess the same could happen in the uk. So, let's start an hypothetical poll: which region in the uk could be the most fined? :laugh:
 
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Yes, I spoke to friends of mine in Italy. Mainly people in the North of Italy are following the rules after the fines were introduced, while people in the south of Italy are still behaving like morons and that's where most of the fines come from.
were these friends from the north?
where does their information come from?
 

Drago

Legendary Member
What's so special about this thread? They dare not stop out exercise. That women from Newcastle even had her case overturned. What a joke.
You're a bit premature - it's not yet been overturned. BTP have said they will apply to the court for the conviction to be set aside, but that will require another hearing, and you can't make the presumption that the court will agree to do so.

Even then, that was a massive procedural clanger on the part of BTP who charged her under the wrong legislation, not a failure of the correct legislation.

Government ministers are making it very clear that if people don't stop arsing about they will ban all forms of outdoor exercise. They have the remit to protect life and limb, the motivation, and the legislative wherewithal to do so. You, on the other hand, have no moral or legal grounds upon which to counter if/when they do so.
 
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HMS_Dave

Grand Old Lady
I would wager that in the event of an all out ban, those that flout the current lock down law/legislation would openly disregard the blanket ban on exercise whilst destroying the majorities hope of reasonable exercise which brings in its own health implications. The law needs to be swift and firm with the dimwits and repeated offenders to serve as a deterrent as to not bring in a total lock down. Or gift them the finest Government owned live grenade💣 and dive for cover. But perhaps the latter is a little bit of an overly expressive imagination... Who Knows!?
 

Guzzi

Active Member
Posters saying "thats just what Michael Gove/Matt Hancock says, it's not the law" should really check what the Conservative Majority is and whether there is an effective opposition.
 
If you look at the bigger picture - such as what the Gov Medical Officers are saying - then I think they will only bring in more severe measures if the numbers aren't brought under control. (of course there are huge subjective judgements just in that one phrase!). I'd like to think that the threats are just crowd control (probably a good thing, even though I dislike the police state tendencies as much as the next man).

Currently? My money says no tightening. And eventually there will be a staged loosening of laws/guidance. Anyone that disagrees is welcome to show me *their* money! :smile:
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
John Bacchus was the police sergeant in the George Gently series (obviously set in the sixties) and he had very "of the period" views on "homos" as he termed them and non white people. Women weren't spared his views either!
I do get the reference 👍🌈 although never watched enough of the series to get into the meat of it
 
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If you look at the bigger picture - such as what the Gov Medical Officers are saying - then I think they will only bring in more severe measures if the numbers aren't brought under control. (of course there are huge subjective judgements just in that one phrase!). I'd like to think that the threats are just crowd control (probably a good thing, even though I dislike the police state tendencies as much as the next man).

Currently? My money says no tightening. And eventually there will be a staged loosening of laws/guidance. Anyone that disagrees is welcome to show me *their* money! :smile:
I wonder what the chances are of armed army soldiers just wandering through parks & open areas, but I've with you, I don't think they want to tighten the rules, they just need to enforce them in certain areas.
 
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