Dog Electrocuted!

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gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
I did not think that in Britain you are allowed to admit to not liking dogs. It fits in the category of thinking babies are ugly.

But, you have to admit, that the concept of making an animal a slave to provide happiness for a human being is a little bit distorted as a concept.
 

snapper_37

Barbara Woodhouse's Love Child
Location
Wolves
gavintc said:
But, you have to admit, that the concept of making an animal a slave to provide happiness for a human being is a little bit distorted as a concept.

Eh?

I got my dog from a rescue centre. She'd been kicked to feck, tied up with barbed wire and had her endless pups drowned in front of her. Fact - not drama.

So .... who got the most happiness?

Me or her?
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
We breed them as pets. How we now use them is strange concept. They are essentially wild animals or at best they worked in support of humans. The modern day concept of keeping animals as complete pets is what I propose is a little bit strange. Is it morally correct that we lock up animals in our homes and retain them for our pleasure.
 

snapper_37

Barbara Woodhouse's Love Child
Location
Wolves
gavintc said:
We breed them as pets. How we now use them is strange concept. They are essentially wild animals or at best they worked in support of humans. The modern day concept of keeping animals as complete pets is what I propose is a little bit strange. Is it morally correct that we lock up animals in our homes and retain them for our pleasure.

Every animal was once wild, including us.

Some animals have gone from working into the domestics they are now. Should we turn our backs on the fact that such working animals are no longer required as the work is not there?

They have been inbred and inbred until in such a state, and I will grant you that, they can no longer do what they were originally on this earth to do - unless, as a responsible owner, you bring it out.

Whilst I understand where you are coming from, it is not purely for (my) our own selfish reasons that they are retained.

The natural retrieval instincts of my dog were there at a younger age and we nurtured that. Unfortunately, as an old bugger of nearly 16, I don't think she wants to retrieve anything apart from a gravy bone.
 
gavintc said:
We breed them as pets. How we now use them is strange concept. They are essentially wild animals or at best they worked in support of humans. The modern day concept of keeping animals as complete pets is what I propose is a little bit strange. Is it morally correct that we lock up animals in our homes and retain them for our pleasure.

I don't think you can talk about animals in the widest sense, you have to look at each on their merits. It would be a bit strange if you were keeping a horse in the kitchen but most pets have been domesticated for centuries. Dogs and cats most commonly and I think their life is generally suited to domestication. I'm less sure on caged birds or similiar and I think some of the breeders of dogs need a cattle prod rammed up their jacksie until they regain some common sense.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
Not wanting to stir a hornet's nest, I remember an article in I think, the Sunday Telegraph. (found it onthe bus, honest....)
It was an interview with a middle aged woman who lived in a flat in central London and had rehomed a Hound "liberated" from a hunt kennels by the ALF or some similar organisation. She was utterly convinced that she had done the right thing by taking the dog from its "slavery" at the Hunt where it was deprived of everything that a dog, in her opinion, needed, namely lots and lots of human affection and a nice warm flat to sleep in.

The dog, however, didn't quite see it that way. Being an Alpha male he found himself suddenly deprived of the very things he lived for, namely the lion's share of half a dead cow every day, as many bitches to cover as he could manage, after some invigorating scraps with young pretenders, and mile after mile of galloping exercise across country with the prospect of the occasional chance to tear Charles James to pieces at the end of it.

He tried to make up for the losses in his new home in Finsbury or wherever, and repaid the middle aged heroine's kindness by trashing the flat and trying to shag her.......

The moral of the story? Dogs are what we make of them. They aren't all pets, but they are all loyal pack animals.
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
To a large extent I am floating an argument that is a little bit theoretical rather than real. I am simply proposing that we have become so wedded to our animals that sometimes we forget that they are animals taken from the wild for our pleasure. Many nations do not have this hang up.

I will admit to having a pet cat - I often look at him and wonder whether he would rather be free.
 
gavintc said:
I will admit to having a pet cat - I often look at him and wonder whether he would rather be free.

You don't have a pet cat, he has a pet human. If he wants to be free, he will. If he's still with you, you must be giving him better food and comfort than he can get elsewhere. :rofl:
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
Crackle said:
You don't have a pet cat, he has a pet human. If he wants to be free, he will. If he's still with you, you must be giving him better food and comfort than he can get elsewhere. xx(


LoL - Yes, it is an easy life for him. He tells me when he wants feeding by standing on my head when I am fast asleep - best alarm clock there is.
 

mikeitup

Veteran
Location
Walsall
gavintc said:
I did not think that in Britain you are allowed to admit to not liking dogs. It fits in the category of thinking babies are ugly.

But, you have to admit, that the concept of making an animal a slave to provide happiness for a human being is a little bit distorted as a concept.

Christ I saw an ugly baby when out yesterday. It looked like ET with a hat on.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
I think humans owe domesticated animals a fair and decent life. Humans made them what they now are and they can't be unmade and society doesn't really want them to be wild again either. Not many people would like the country side roaming with wild cats and mongrel wolves.

If dogs, or other domesticated animals, have no bred purpose in modern life then we should give them an enjoyable and active life and not breed any more of them in that format. I sometimes think that that should apply to humans too.
 
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Mr Pig

Mr Pig

New Member
Yes, let's move on to the whole baby thing. Baby's are fugly, they just are! My wife still casts up the time we went to the hospital to see our friend's new-born daughter, I Lifted her and the first thing I said was "What's it like to have big BUG eyes Rebekah?"

I mean, I understand the whole 'pride in your own child' crap but let's not pretend that babies are attractive to other people. Interesting, a miracle, but not beautiful. It's just insulting.
 
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