Does Carnauba wax protect paint work?

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MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
fossyant said:
Mr Sheen (original) is very good on bikes - also contains silicon, so water and dirt just wash off. I't good for removing oily marks, and great at removing brake crap off your side walls (don't use on the tread !!!) if you have fancy coloured tyres.

It's also great if you have squeeky plastic cleats....

now I was kind of getting this thread, but then you go and mention polishing the sides of tyres!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Downward

Guru
Location
West Midlands
People Polish Bikes ?!
There is barely enough to do surely ?!
 
Rigid Raider said:
Car waxes contain a fine abrasive, which polishes the paint and removes surface dirt. After that the solvent dries off and leaves that chalky deposit, which also contains the wax.

I polished my safety googles with car wax; they were all scratched and manky but they came us like new with some vigorous rubbing. Did the same with the plastic "glass" on my son's Swatch, which got scratched. Rubbed it flat with wet and dry, polished with Brasso, which is quite abrasive, then finished with car wax and for 10 minutes Dad was very popular!

On a bike frame the wax causes water droplets to bead and run off rather than wetting the surface, which helps with subsequent cleaning and helps prevent rusting where the paint is chipped.

Yes some car polishes/waxes do contain abrasives, these are classed as an all in one treatment, OK at many jobs just not ideal/perfect for any particular one (jack of all trades master of none) but also as the OP asked about carnauba these all in ones contain less than 2% carnauba at best

fossyant said:
I was talking the Carnuba wax bars - I have polish with the stuff in, but the 'car detailers' will use the bars and some water to pull crap off..then use the polishes.

Just good car polish is fine, or Mr Sheen...

Pure carnauba bars will not work at all, as per my first post, its as hard as rock and will cause damage before giving any type of protection, trust me I earn a very good living using these products, I don't know everything and I'm still learning but if I am given almost all of the best super cars about to look after I must be doing something right.

The bars you talk about with using water is not carnauba but whats called a clay bar, its used to remove all surface containments, the water is used as a lube or the clay will impart marring to the paintwork. And yes the paint is then polished to a perfect or as close to perfect as is possible, normally using machine polishers of different types and also a multitude of foam pads, abrasive polishes and then cleansers.

Nowt wrong with a quick wipe over with Mr Sheen, though try using it on a black car in sun light as try to buff off all the silicon smears, but for a bike its ok

User3094 said:
I use this stuff which I think has got Canuba in it...

http://www.autoglym.com/enGB/product-proddetail.asp?v06VQ=HJ&Range=1

Smells nice anyway!

LOL, yep smells nice and also contains a suspension of carnauba, though when I spoke to the AG rep at a trade show he wouldn't be nailed down on the exact %. But what works and makes people happy is good for me, plus AG is aimed at the every day guy not the perfectionist.
 

Unimaginative

Über Member
If you want some thoughts on the %age carnauba content in car waxes, take a look at this thread: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=63299

There's a great deal of confusion in car care as to what you call a polish and what you call a wax. This isn't helped by things like the autoexpress tests that mix and match both into the same test and call the resultant article a test of car polishes.

Anyway, a quick look on the halfords website shows some waxes (i.e. give protection, have no abrasives):

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_172190_langId_-1_categoryId_165527
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_378001_langId_-1_categoryId_165527
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_201921_langId_-1_categoryId_165527
 

Gerry Attrick

Lincolnshire Mountain Rescue Consultant
Muc Off produce a bike specific polish/wax called "Miracle Shine" which is excellent. It does contain carnauba wax but I don't know how much. Yeah I know it's pricey at around £12, but you get a huge quantity which will last for ever, as I said it is superb and it is carbon safe.
 
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Nicensleazy

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I have a friend who is a professional detailer.........he just put some zymol Concours on my frames free of charge....I was quite amazed at the resluts, but I wouldn't go and by the stuff!
 

2PedalsTez

Über Member
Wash bike.

Autoglym SRP - restores paint finish/colour and contains fillers so it will disguise the 'swirls'.

Colly 815 wax (applied very thin) buff. Leave over night and apply a second coat, buff. Shiny pimped bike that will repel the water for ages.

DONE:biggrin:
 

Danny

Legendary Member
Location
York
HeartAttack said:
SCarnauba in its pure form is a solid unusable material, it has to be mixed with other items to make is usable. Cheaper waxes will at best only contain upto 3% carnabua the rest will be anything including heavy solvents like petrol. Mid range waxes will have upto 30% carnabua, next to no solvents and then the top stuff will have anywhere upto 75% carnauba and nothing harmful added. In fact the best stuff can be eaten safely.
Have you tried it? :blush:
 

Downward

Guru
Location
West Midlands
Zymol is V nice - Nice Smell, I have some but it doesn't get on well with my new car so might apply some to bike !
 
Downward said:
Zymol is V nice - Nice Smell, I have some but it doesn't get on well with my new car so might apply some to bike !

Have you tried HD cleanse first? all Zym waxes need a good preparation first otherwise even the £7k Royale will look shite, also another thing about Zym, less is most definately more, you want to be applying the thinnnest of layers, allow it 10-30 mins (depends on what wax you have) and then buff off, leave for about 2 hours and buff again, if you want to add a 2nd or more coats then allow 24 hours between to allow it to fully cure.
 
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