Do we really have to get so close to our cars?

[barongreenback]

Far from it mate, far from it

 

[Twigman]

If you accidently bump into someones car, they get out and start shouting at you.

What do you expect?
Do you expect them to be nice about it and perhaps buy you a drink?
If you damage my property I'll have you pay for it...who the f!!* do you think you are?

 

[tyred]

I have never owned any car which was remotely expensive and I am happy to accept scrapes and dings in a car park or whatever so long as I feel it was a genuine mistake.

I see people who just seem to nudge other cars out of the way while parking or park beside a car and then bang their door into it and other similar acts which annoy me as it may not be deliberate but they look as if they just simply don't care, which to me shows a lack of respect for other people's property. I don't worry too much about my own car but am always super careful never to damage anyone else's. And that applies whether it is a Yugo 45 or a new Rolls Royce and I expect others to extend my car the same courtesy.

 

[Hilldodger]

To clarify this up, this thread is about how drivers could save themselves a load of hassle by using public transport, which is a lot cheaper and often quicker than using peronal vehicles. This would result in less confrontations when a cyclist accidently damages a drivers vehicle because the car was either parked in the wrong place, or it was a simple mistake by the cyclist.

Hopefully this has cleared up the topic.

Fine if public transport goes where and when you want it to.

 

[byegad]

To clarify this up, this thread is about how drivers could save themselves a load of hassle by using public transport, which is a lot cheaper and often quicker than using peronal vehicles. This would result in less confrontations when a cyclist accidently damages a drivers vehicle because the car was either parked in the wrong place, or it was a simple mistake by the cyclist.

Hopefully this has cleared up the topic.

How drivers could save themselves a load of hassle by using public transport?????

What planet are you from?

I worked in the nearest town 12 miles from home in a small village. Bus to work was impossible even if I got the first bus towards work out of the village, 06.45 IIRC, it would not take me direct to work on the outskirts fo the town but to the town centre where I'd have to wait for another bus to get me to work at 08.45, 15 minutes too late for me. Driving took 25 minutes and cost less in petrol than the fares one way. OK I know cost of petrol is a small part of the real cost of motoring, but if you already have a car stood on the drive it's what you look at.
Cycling took me 53 minutes in and 1hr 5 minutes out, it's slightly down hill to town.
The main point is I could not do the job unless I ignored public transport and made my own way on four or two wheels.

When I moved jobs I was 16 miles from home, cycling in took 1h 3mins and back anything from 1h 20m to 1 40m depending on winds, this job was at sea level I live some 350ft above sea level. Again buses were impossible, the earliest time they would have got me to work would have been 09.10 setting out on the first bus in that direction at 06.20.

Frankly any public transport system which takes nearly three hours to get you 16 miles from home is not fit for purpose, a younger fitter man could jog that distance in a similar time. The killer in each case was not only the slowness of the buses but the waiting time for 'connections' to turn up.

Granted in cities public transport can be good, but if you want to commute from the outskirts of one town to the outskirts of another the killer is the journey time into and out of the centre of the towns and the wait for the next bus, not the usually fast transit from one town centre to another.

We need a joined up and subsidised public transport system, at least until we can wean people off their dependence on cars. We also need a move to make living closer to work easier and cheaper. Both would cost money that the government does not have neither is there any political will to make money available in the future.

 

[Bicycle]

How drivers could save themselves a load of hassle by using public transport?????

We need a joined up and subsidised public transport system, at least until we can wean people off their dependence on cars. We also need a move to make living closer to work easier and cheaper. Both would cost money that the government does not have neither is there any political will to make money available in the future.

You are quite right. There are many things we need but do not have.

As an observation, I recall (early 90s) sitting at a dinner party where a friend said loudly (and for the wider table to hear) that she'd happily pay more income tax to ensure that nurses were properly paid.

Two of the guests were nurses, so it played well to the gallery.

I reminded the saintly would-be tax payer that she had a nice rental income from a London flat that she had made no attempt to declare for several years (and even had post sent there to give the inpression it was her main residence). Had she wanted to pay more tax, the means were there without the need for saintly rhetoric.

The rest of the evening went by very, very slowly.

This is just an observation, but it illustrates the gaping chasm between what we tax-payers would like to have and what we are willing to fork out for.

I'd love to see an integrated public transport system, but elections are won (other than the one in 1945) by parties who offer lower taxes.

It's not the fault of any government... we get the politicians we deserve.

 

[Rebel Ian]

I was in two minds as to whether the original post was a wind up but it seemed genuine. Then came the quote about car drivers saving themselves hassle by using public transport - now I know it's a wind up. Either that or a good argument against all day licensing hours!