T4tomo
Legendary Member
Despite it being a key selling point when the manufacturers / retailers decide on price points between models, I actually think the Groupset makes a lot less difference £ for £ than important things like the frame, wheels and tyres and finishing kit (although with saddles more £ doesn't necessarily mean comfier for a particular ass)
The weight difference between tiagra and Ultegra is so small it's not noticeable in practice. The Microshift on my son's Btwin shifts gears just as effectively as my 11 sp Ultegra on my best bike (this was entry level spec, I wasn't contradicting the above, there was no 105/ tiagra option) although makes a slightly louder clunk when changing.
The difference is purely very small aesthetics, an almost unnoticeable improvement in "operation" and bragging rights down the pub.
I would buy the best bike for your budget in terms of frame and wheels and if you have to balance the books with a "lower" Groupset then do so. 10spd will save you £'s on new cassettes and chains anyway.
The weight difference between tiagra and Ultegra is so small it's not noticeable in practice. The Microshift on my son's Btwin shifts gears just as effectively as my 11 sp Ultegra on my best bike (this was entry level spec, I wasn't contradicting the above, there was no 105/ tiagra option) although makes a slightly louder clunk when changing.
The difference is purely very small aesthetics, an almost unnoticeable improvement in "operation" and bragging rights down the pub.
I would buy the best bike for your budget in terms of frame and wheels and if you have to balance the books with a "lower" Groupset then do so. 10spd will save you £'s on new cassettes and chains anyway.
,should be Campagnolo Record though,not some Jap knock-off 
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