oldroadman
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Always used Brooks B17 ("butchered" with the big copper rivets) in early years, which was comfy but a bit heavy in competition. Later on a switch to firm plastic covered with a decent (unpadded) layer of leather, which was very supportive. And I've still got it in frequent use. It's simply horses for courses. Those thick gel things are horrible, sweaty, saddle sore devices. One more thing - quality shorts with a proper gender specific anatomic insert, and chamois cream (or Sudacrem) - can't beat it.