Do cycling shoes work?

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Alternatively, there are such things as "toe cups" that will also stop your feet slipping, whilst wearing normal shoes. You will also never experience a "clipless moment". They are not very well promoted because they don't make shops much money.

Make sure your pedals have holes you can screw them to.

Zefal MT45, £6 a pair:

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I use to have a similar pair of 'urban toe clips on my velocity there not nearly as efficient or secure as clipless but they are good for going about town. I had straps before on another bike and found them too restrictive if I wore a different pair of shoes.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
I'd like to see those deal with 85-90w on the upstroke alone.... that 2.1N force back & upwards at 70 rpm

Wow, somebody not had a compliment about his incredible power today then?

On the OP and the responses:-

clipless moments/falling over - never has so much total crud been talked about something, all this hilarious, not a problem, laugh it off - it's purely personal anecdote at best - question a bit more closely and some might even admit that yes they were hurt but not badly - now go and tell those that have been seriously injured in 'clipless moments' that it's just a laugh and the advantages were worth it. I AM NOT saying don't go clipless but I am saying don't believe everything you hear.

feet slipping on pedals, sore feet, etc, etc - not for me, get flat pedals that give a decent supportive platform/grip and you can ride in anything - though I will admit to not doing too well in flip flops last year, but then I don't do too well walking in flip flops.

power - climbs and sprints, yep I can see that - everything else...nah....you'll hear plenty claim that it's night and day but you won't see much in the way of - 10 miles takes me 40 minutes on flat pedals but only 20 minutes with clipless - in fact the differences, if any, are more likley to be measured in seconds than minutes. As for pulling up on the pedals, that only happens on limited occasions.

pedalling properly/knee pain - more crud, you can pedal perfectly adequately without being attached to the pedal and you can reposition your feet to suit how you are at that time and on that day. Search the forums and you'll find plenty about knee pain, a lot of which can be resolved by getting the saddle/pedal relationship correct. After that though it becomes a list of how are your cleats? how much float? have they been fitted properly? try moving them a few mm at a time, get a proper shoe fit with special wedges, try a different pedal/shoe setup. It's a marketing wet dream, not only have they created an entire shoe/pedal industry but they've got people spending more dosh to try and tweak to get the perfect fit.

As per Rivbikes:-
http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse

Go clipless, don't go clipless, I don't care, but don't accept at face value the garbage that's trotted out on the subject. Have a think about reality and what you want to do, if that involves making a living in cycling then clipless is your friend, anything else is just slurping the marketing coolade.
 

Mr Cheese

Active Member
Location
Rochdale
Have to agree with MacB! I opted for some "clipless" pedals and shoes after commuting for about a year. I therefore thought I was a "proper" cyclist and needed some "proper" cycling shoes.

They did nothing for me whatsoever, apart from causing knee pain which no amount of adjusting of the cleats could solve. I noticed no improvement in my cycling and certainly nothing to convince me of the oft quoted "go clipless and you'll never go back".

I have now swapped for some V8 pedals, which have good grippy spikes to prevent my feet from slipping when wet, and a large comfortable platform. Much less hassle, too.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
Wow, somebody not had a compliment about his incredible power today then?
Not sure, I've not seen that guy today to ask him... not that I would either. My upstroke utilisation is in a different cadence range & is a different profile, I just happened to have that data readily available.

I after cracking my SPD shoe open I went with flat pedals on my MTB with Wellgo B54s. On the smoother surfaces & down hill they were fine but on the rough & rutted surfaces & up hill I must have lost my footing at least 4 times a ride. From personal experience pins make a real mess of your shin & the sole of your shoe if you foot does slip... I ended up having to take antibiotics due to an infection in one of the gouges. So the injury thing swings both ways.
 

Davidc

Guru
Location
Somerset UK
Thank you MacB. Nice to see some sense being posted about clipless pedals. The article in the link is one of the best I've ever seen on the subject. (I would think that as I agree with all of it!)

Clipless - IMO for normal mortals they're an expensive, useless and potentially dngerous waste of time. (Unless like me you can buy them for less than you sell them on for on ebay)
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
IMHO once you take the SPD route you will never, ever want to ride on flats again.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Been using clipless for just under a year now, never had a clipless 'moment'.

Just to derail (deraille?) the thread for a moment, but does anyone have any opinions on the different type of clipless systems out there? From the top of my memory I can think of:

1. Shimano SPD
2. Crank Bros 'eggbeaters'
3. Look pedals
4. Those ones with the circular pedal that I can't find but remember someone talking about them and how expensive they are.

I understand Look are more for serious road riding and aren't suitable for walking in, but what about SPDs vs the others? I went for Crank Bros on mine after being urged to try them as well as SPDs, and found them easier to clip in and out of from the off, so went for them over SPDs.

I've since got some jocular grief for not using SPDs and using those silly egg beater things, but haven't heard of any particular advantage SPDs have over them. Would anyone care to enlighten me?
 
Been using clipless for just under a year now, never had a clipless 'moment'.

Just to derail (deraille?) the thread for a moment, but does anyone have any opinions on the different type of clipless systems out there? From the top of my memory I can think of:

1. Shimano SPD
2. Crank Bros 'eggbeaters'
3. Look pedals
4. Those ones with the circular pedal that I can't find but remember someone talking about them and how expensive they are.

I understand Look are more for serious road riding and aren't suitable for walking in, but what about SPDs vs the others? I went for Crank Bros on mine after being urged to try them as well as SPDs, and found them easier to clip in and out of from the off, so went for them over SPDs.

I've since got some jocular grief for not using SPDs and using those silly egg beater things, but haven't heard of any particular advantage SPDs have over them. Would anyone care to enlighten me?
The ones you are thinking about with the circular pedals are the speedplay frog; there's a few other too Time and SPD-sl. I don't think I would split into Shimano v others but mtb types (of which shimano spd see to be most common) via road types (Look Keo', Spd-sl, etc). I've never used the crank bro pedal but there just another type of mtb pedal and I dont recall anything negative about them; there just less common/ different some folk dont like that. This is just one review but the bloke seems to like them :smile:
 
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