Do carbon bikes have a major flaw

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whoosh

Active Member
Out yesterday on my new Planet X Pro Carbon, as I approached a set of traffic lights I commonly pass I did my normal slow down and weave side to side on the sensor strips -nothing, nada, no green light. So I did a u turn and tried again, still red, even after waiting a couple of miutes. It's lights at a railway bridge on a very quiet road, so I assumed they were bust and cautiously rode through. The same palaver on the way back. Any thoughts anyone?
 

vickster

Legendary Member
Nothing to do with It being carbon, just person plus bike isn't big and heavy enough to trigger the lights. The bike is only a couple of kilos lighter than an aluminium one. Report to the council
 

mcshroom

Bionic Subsonic
Some traffic lights use magnetic sensors, and CF won't set them off. Usually Alu and even steel bikes struggle to set them off if they aren't sensitive enough though. It would be worth reporting them to the local council. I did that with a set round here (after 6 months of them not responding to my alu/steel bike), and they changed the sensitivity sensor the following weekend so it now works :smile:
 

the_mikey

Legendary Member
Vehicle detection loops are optimised for large steel objects, no consideration goes into use with bicycles at the planning stage. In general, I doubt that the planners even have the awareness or technical knowledge to implement such a system, one traffic light system is often a carbon copy of a previous one, even motorbikes have problems using them. The only way to change this would be for bicycles to be specified as a particular interest at the planning stage.
 

djb1971

Legendary Member
Location
Far Far Away
Some traffic lights use magnetic sensors, and CF won't set them off. Usually Alu and even steel bikes struggle to set them off if they aren't sensitive enough though. It would be worth reporting them to the local council. I did that with a set round here (after 6 months of them not responding to my alu/steel bike), and they changed the sensitivity sensor the following weekend so it now works :smile:

This.

I'm in the process of continually reporting a set that won't change unless a car triggers the lights for me. To be fair the person I'm dealing with is very good, says he's a cyclist too. They've adjusted the sensor and it's still not working so they're going to dig the road up. I only keep reporting it because I've had a couple of close shaves going through on red with idiots speeding through them. I'm not getting off and using the pavement, I ride like a road user so I want to be treated as one, I wouldn't mount the pavement in my car.

Report it.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
I can make most of 'em work on my commuting bikes (Brompton, Surly Long Haul Trucker). There's one (on a no through road for motors) that needs the bike positioning diagonally to work, but that's the only funny I can think of.
 

the_mikey

Legendary Member
Don't put too much faith in the council turning the sensitivity up on these loop sensors, they'll do it and probably a week later it willl materialise that a quiet side road is getting more 'green light' than traffic levels can justify, find the sensor is stuck permanently detecting even when there is no vehicle present and the sensitivity will have to be turned down. (I know this from experience sadly :angry:)

Also look out for bad loop positioning, ie on top of railway bridges, or in lanes where cars can park, and then the council wonder why the light phasing isn't working properly.
 
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