Do all professional cyclists use carbon framed bikes?

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Globalti

Legendary Member
I don't buy the idea that a metal frame can be made as comfortable while as stiff laterally as a carbon frame. My carbon 1996 Roubaix looks like a collection of carbon tubes neatly joined together and rides pretty smoothly but my 2012 incarnation of the same bike is a different beast altogether - the frame bears no resemblance to a traditional tubed frame and the result is that it is almost completely rigid laterally; you can press with your toe on the BB axle and there's very little flex at all, consequently the bike tracks like a train on rails (not Spanish obviously) and feels sharp and precise, including in braking and climbing, while still managing to deliver a comfortable vertically-compliant ride. Big manufacturers like Spesh and Trek are spending lotsa lolly on improving their carbon frames and learning fast how to make the most of carbon. I don't see metal tube manufacturers or traditional frame builders doing the same - I believe that hydroforming was probably the last evolutionary step in metal frame building and unless somebody concocts a new wonder alloy, metal frame development has probably all but ended while carbon will continue to romp on ahead.
 

oldroadman

Veteran
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Ubique
I know of one of their riders in particular that doesn't enjoy racing those bikes - too heavy and too harsh apparently, stiff in all the wrong places. I'm sure a mere mortal like myself could race just as unsuccessfully on a steel frame, but at the top it does seem to make a difference - there is a reason steel isn't in the pro peloton anymore. Though I agree, they do look bloody beautiful.
Unfortunately when you get paid to ride something you have to get on with it! Jimmy-Mac may have a point about the ride quality for crits, which in the big series this year have covered all kinds of surfaces, including roads that are covered in patches as they slowly deteriorate, never mind the pave.
 
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Cyclopathic

Cyclopathic

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Leicester.
Yes I read the same in Wiggos book about them not being able to keep the bikes which amazed me.

I imagine that a lot of the riders in the pro tour will be offered free bikes from other sources though, just so that they can claim that they are ridden by the pros.
With the price of these top end bikes it doesn't surprise me that they don't give them away as a matter of course. A large team could have quite a high turnover of members so it could get expensive quickly.
 

oldroadman

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Ubique
"For sale, knackered ex-team bike, one careless owner, only crashed a few time, good over cobbles north of Paris and in Flanders. Well maintained but abused. POA"...:sad:
A better bet: "Ex-team service bike, only 30,000 km on roof rack, Bounced around all over europe, some paint defects. POA"...you takes your choice!
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
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Armonmy Way
"For sale, knackered ex-team bike, one careless owner, only crashed a few time, good over cobbles north of Paris and in Flanders. Well maintained but abused. POA"...:sad:
A better bet: "Ex-team service bike, only 30,000 km on roof rack, Bounced around all over europe, some paint defects. POA"...you takes your choice!
I can't remember who it was but I heard someone obviously in the know saying never ever buy a pro's training bike - it will be filthy and it will have done a lot of miles with no servicing.
 

BarryBonkers

Regular
Location
London, UK
Didn't LA and poss some of the other Postals ride Litespeeds in Trek livery? They would have been Ti.

Pretty sure some members of the Motorola team rode on re-badged & painted Litespeed titanium frames. And weren't Lance's early TT frames for USPS re-badged & painted Litespeed Blades?
 

VamP

Banned
Location
Cambs
"For sale, knackered ex-team bike, one careless owner, only crashed a few time, good over cobbles north of Paris and in Flanders. Well maintained but abused. POA"...:sad:
A better bet: "Ex-team service bike, only 30,000 km on roof rack, Bounced around all over europe, some paint defects. POA"...you takes your choice!

I have an ex-team bike, well just the frame, and apart from a few cosmetics it's superb.
 
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