Difference between Manual & Auto in a driving test.

[Marchrider]

Most modern cars people learn in now have clutch assist etc and might as well be automatic. None of this learning the bite point. My daughter doesn't like driving the "very" manual, but super easy Aygo, because she hasn't learnt to drive a car without all the 'assists'. The Aygo is super easy to drive and it's very forgiving of being in the wrong gear - just keeps moving, but my daughter can't get the hang of it.

what is clutch assist ? some sort of servo like we have on brakes making it easier to press, or does pressing the clutch just engage a preselected gear

I remember driving wagons years ago, somewhere deep into last century. The clutch was so heavy at traffic lights you would need to bring the right leg over to keep it pressed down

 

[Marchrider]

The french have two terms:

Boite de vitesse is a gearbox where you can change gears
Réducteur for a box that contains gears, but where you can't change the ratios without rebuilding it.

Presumably they therefore have to find other issues for pointless argument and point scoring?

we have a myford lathe and to change gear you have to take it to bits and fit in other cogs - or and move belts from one pulley to another

 

[fossyant]

what is clutch assist ? some sort of servo like we have on brakes making it easier to press, or does pressing the clutch just engage a preselected gear

I remember driving wagons years ago, somewhere deep into last century. The clutch was so heavy at traffic lights you would need to bring the right leg over to keep it pressed down

I suppose it's hill start assist, the car takes quite a bit of control behind the scenes even in normal use. My daughter learnt in a brand new Puma. I've only driven cars where you've a normal clutch, no hill start etc, other than my current automatic, that I've just got, and that is a doddle - not going back to a manual ever.

 

[Baldy]

I remember driving wagons years ago, somewhere deep into last century. The clutch was so heavy at traffic lights you would need to bring the right leg over to keep it pressed down

That must have been a long, long time ago. Last time I saw a manual gearbox on a truck was around 2005, if you want one now it has to be ordered in specially. All the big fleets, here in Scotland at least, use automatic boxes far better fuel efficiency. Most of the truck makers are going over to push button handbrakes as well. Took a little getting used to but makes hill starts so easy.

 

[CXRAndy]

Clutch assist or hill start assist, came about due to electronic handbrake being introduced.

All it does, is electronically release the handbrake once clutch bite has been established, stopping/preventing roll back.

 

[welsh dragon]

I have returned. £232 lighter In my pocket, but I have my car back. Hoorah. I am a happy bunny now

 

[welsh dragon]

I suppose it's hill start assist, the car takes quite a bit of control behind the scenes even in normal use. My daughter learnt in a brand new Puma. I've only driven cars where you've a normal clutch, no hill start etc, other than my current automatic, that I've just got, and that is a doddle - not going back to a manual ever.

I'll never go back to a manual. Too much hassle and faffing around

 

[Marchrider]

That must have been a long, long time ago. Last time I saw a manual gearbox on a truck was around 2005, if you want one now it has to be ordered in specially. All the big fleets, here in Scotland at least, use automatic boxes far better fuel efficiency. Most of the truck makers are going over to push button handbrakes as well. Took a little getting used to but makes hill starts so easy.

Yes, 1980s all was manual then and lots of very differant boxes to get used to

are wagons now using the dual-clutch (DSG) type transmission or are they still on the automated manual boxes like opticruise & arsetronic

 

[Profpointy]

we have a myford lathe and to change gear you have to take it to bits and fit in other cogs - or and move belts from one pulley to another

My Colchester had a gearbox to change speed, and of course link to the feed for screwcutting, but it also has a number of change-wheels to swap out for otherwise unavailable threads

 

[CXRAndy]

I'll never go back to a manual. Too much hassle and faffing around

Compared, yes they're more difficult. Having had to teach my youngest in a manual, it has reminded me how engaging manual gearbox cars are

 

[cyberknight]

When i get my new car it will be the 1st time i have owned an automatic having always driven manual car all my life apart from the odd time i have used a loan car from work when i was off site on works business on the odd occasion so it will be interesting

 

[FishFright]

I have returned. £232 lighter In my pocket, but I have my car back. Hoorah. I am a happy bunny now

That's one expensive lighter , what the hell do you smoke that warrant's that ? ....

 

[welsh dragon]

That's one expensive lighter , what the hell do you smoke that warrant's that ? ....

For some reason my posts keeps being put onto threads other than the one I want. Oops

 

[Ming the Merciless]

For some reason my posts keeps being put onto threads other than the one I want. Oops

Age is a terrible leveller

 

[Baldy]

Yes, 1980s all was manual then and lots of very differant boxes to get used to

are wagons now using the dual-clutch (DSG) type transmission or are they still on the automated manual boxes like opticruise & arsetronic

You're asking me technical questions?? No idea.