Di2

[DSK]

Both of the bikes you are looking at, are great bikes. (I'd personally take a Propel or Aria over the Canyon). For that money, I'd say do put the Bianchi Aria disc/di2 as an additional contender for the money.

Just one thing to bear in mind is that, if you bin it and damage something, replacement Di2 parts are hideously expensive! So be careful. Also don't lean it up against a wall with the handlebars in contact and this could press the Di2 lever and drain the battery. If you are out and about, you cannot leave these bikes unattended unless you fancy getting a taxi home!

 

[Venod]

If you decide to on Di2 you have the budget, it gets good reviews so go for it.

I like new cycling technology but I have talked myself out of Di2, I know of two riders who have had their rides spoiled with flat battery issues, they forgot to charge them, it is not a big upgrade to me, you press a button and it changes gear, I move a lever and it changes gear, I look after my gear setups so they never become a problem, just new cables occasionally.

I have just bought a new bike and I asked myself again, do I want Di2, I went mechanical, l think @PaulSB gives good advice.

 

[DSK]

Venod makes a good point about dead batteries. However, I personally think this is more down an individual. If you are the sort of person who risks letting their car run out of fuel or regularly has a dead mobile phone battery then DI2 isn't best for you. This is also why I mentioned to be mindful when storing/transporting it.

 

[derrick]

If your one who looks after his bike and checks it between rides. You would never have a low battery problem. But if your someone who just rides there bike and fixes it when they get a problem, then its got to be cables.👍

 

[kenam]

Are you new to cycling, or new to road cycling?
If new to cycling, I'd consider spending ~1/4 of that for the first bike. Keep the cash until you know a bit more of what feels good. For around a grand you will get a decent ALU frame, 105 groupset and it will still be a joy to ride.

If you get to this time next year, and still enjoying it, then go for the all singing all dancing bike and you still have a solid second bike for winter/ commute/ pop to the shops/ whatever.

With a bit of road experience as well, you will have a better idea of what to look for, what feels right etc when shopping.

 

[Mark pallister]

definitely, best thing ever and perfect for beginners
charge it every 2000 mls or so and that’s it
I’ve got it on two bikes and no problems
on my road bike it’s covered over 12000 mls and never missed a shift or dropped a chain With
no adjustments

 

[Mark pallister]

Definitely without. I'm sure you'll get positive comments about Di2 from fans saying what a wonderful innovative system it is and indeed it is but I think for you starting out it's an added complication you don't really need. Put the money into s better groupset, model, accessories etc.

Welcome to the forum Paul

What complications ,you charge it once in a while and that’s it
no missed gears ,no dropped chains and no indexing
haw is that complicated?

 

[kenam]

For a beginner tho - is the occasional mis-shift an issue?
With a new cable based setup, how many dropped chains were you experiencing?

(I'm not against Di2, just putting it in context here).

Occasionally having to index the gears is annoying, but its rarely more than a 1/4 turn on a barrel adjuster. Maybe more if you are doing work on the bike - but the OP might use a bike mechanic for the bigger stuff anyway, so it might be irrelevant.

 

[Mark pallister]

For a beginner tho - is the occasional mis-shift an issue?
With a new cable based setup, how many dropped chains were you experiencing?

(I'm not against Di2, just putting it in context here).

Occasionally having to index the gears is annoying, but its rarely more than a 1/4 turn on a barrel adjuster. Maybe more if you are doing work on the bike - but the OP might use a bike mechanic for the bigger stuff anyway, so it might be irrelevant.

You pays your money you take your choice
ive several bikes and always go back to my di2
it shifts fast and smooth ,it’s very quiet no rubbing on the front mech as it auto trims
syncro shifting is superb ,it displays gear selection on my wahoo roam and let’s me cycle through the pages by pressing the button on the hoods
on longer rides 80ml plus I find it much easier and relaxing
things move on ,it’s just like cars with the auto box’s we have now why would anyone want to have to change manually ?

 

[kenam]

never mind the OP - I think I need to try Di2 - I like the sound of all that!

For the op tho, I was saying this in terms of considering an entry level bike first (which will still be a great bike) to get your bearings. OP might hate cycling or want to specialise on one aspect (train for races, go touring, want distance, want to go faster etc). So get a "regular" bike first and then go all out once you know a bit more about what you want and can better direct the budget. That kind of money gives a lot of options (105/ ultegra, but better wheels, Di2, but with rim brakes etc etc) that the OP might not know they want at present.

 

[Cycleops]

Please don’t think I’m a Luddite but for me and many others it just isn’t worth it and for the little extra performance it gives, I’d rather keep my money than giving it to Shimano shareholders. Things can wrong with electrics especially in a bike which is used in all weathers but I’m sure it’s generally reliable.
if you reprise the previous posts you will see that most everyone recommends you buy it but the least of the reasons is it’s performance, it’s more to do with expectations at the OP’s price point and resale. Anyway the OP now has sufficient information to make an informed decision which is the point of his question.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Once you’ve gone electrac you’ll never go back.

 

[Racing roadkill]

I’m using Campag Super Record EPS on my best bike. With the downloadable app, I can play with exactly how the bike shifts, when I press the buttons / levers. I can even configure which ones up shift and down shift, without having to do anything but tap a button in the phone app. Di2 can do similar things, as can SRAM AXS. It’s really quite a good thing to have, but it’s advisable to remember to keep the system charged up, or it will put you in a ‘limp home’ gear, which could ruin things if you’re out, smashing stuff.

 

[PaulgNewb]

Are you new to cycling, or new to road cycling?
If new to cycling, I'd consider spending ~1/4 of that for the first bike. Keep the cash until you know a bit more of what feels good. For around a grand you will get a decent ALU frame, 105 groupset and it will still be a joy to ride.

If you get to this time next year, and still enjoying it, then go for the all singing all dancing bike and you still have a solid second bike for winter/ commute/ pop to the shops/ whatever.

With a bit of road experience as well, you will have a better idea of what to look for, what feels right etc when shopping.

Hi thanks for the reply.
I’m a keen hybrid cyclist and do a fair whack of miles per week. Just looking to top that up now with road cycling. I also like the look of the social aspect (post lockdown) 👍🏻

 

[Mark pallister]

Please don’t think I’m a Luddite but for me and many others it just isn’t worth it and for the little extra performance it gives, I’d rather keep my money than giving it to Shimano shareholders. Things can wrong with electrics especially in a bike which is used in all weathers but I’m sure it’s generally reliable.
if you reprise the previous posts you will see that most everyone recommends you buy it but the least of the reasons is it’s performance, it’s more to do with expectations at the OP’s price point and resale. Anyway the OP now has sufficient information to make an informed decision which is the point of his question.

I wouldn’t say it gives more performance as such it just make life a bit more comfortable and pleasant also the extra outlay is reflected in the price when it comes to sale time
In my experience di2 bikes sell very easily and for top dollar