Describing Rides

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ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I think flat roads have been made illegal around Hebby Bridge I well remember the climb from Bacup (or was it Tod?) and subsequent descent, the climb was MTB granny ring all the way and the descent had the knobblies singing at gawd knows what speed.
Well, the valley roads are pretty flat but they are far too built up and busy! There are certainly a lot of good climbs around here. Having said that, I like the sound of lukesdad's local countryside, but I think I'll give Carmarthenshire a miss until I'm about 3 stone lighter! ;)
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
I plotted rides using bike hike & was struggling to get much over 23m/km climbing on a reasonable length ride (over 30miles). The only way I managed to get those numbers quoted by lukesdad was with short road routes or to use off-road routes.
 

lukesdad

Guest
I plotted rides using bike hike & was struggling to get much over 23m/km climbing on a reasonable length ride (over 30miles). The only way I managed to get those numbers quoted by lukesdad was with short road routes or to use off-road routes.
:biggrin:

You need to come to Carmarthenshire GB. Have a glance at an O/S north west carmarthenshire and you ll see what I mean. Get your Butt down here for one of our rides :laugh:
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
This is all abit subjective really. Here in Carmarthenshire most of the land lies above 500 ft and is riddled with steep valleys, The secondary roads tend to go up and over,whilst main roads tend to follow the valleys. Unlike most hiily or moutainous counties the road network is extensive ( not exactly sure why this is,could be something to do with the many tiny villages and small farms).
I just fired up Memory Map and panned it over to your neck of the woods - wow, contour-tastic! It's very lumpy round here but the number of roads is fairly limited so there are not that many possible route variations. I can imagine spending years trying out all those different roads of yours. It would definitely not be the place to live if you didn't like hills!
 

lukesdad

Guest
I just fired up Memory Map and panned it over to your neck of the woods - wow, contour-tastic! It's very lumpy round here but the number of roads is fairly limited so there are not that many possible route variations. I can imagine spending years trying out all those different roads of yours. It would definitely not be the place to live if you didn't like hills!
CJ been down here 8 years and still dont think, Ive done all the possible routes,even just the local ones. North into Ceredigion and west into North Pembrokeshire is more of the same.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I like this guide to the approximate nature of a ride m climb per km (ft climb per mile):
Flat - 0-5 m/km (0-26ft/m)
Rolling - 5-10 m/km (26-52ft/m)
Moderately hilly - 10-15 m/km (52-78ft/m)
Hilly - 15-20 m/km (78-104ft/m)
Very hill - 20-25 m/km (104-130ft/m)
Insanely hilly - >25 m/km (>130ft/m)


I like this definition ... but what is the minimum distance to ride before you would use them. For example my shortest ride is to drop my son at school - which is a mere half km (one way) and a drop of 15 m - and I don't notice it, and then where ever I go after that its probably up and down - but if you take where I was working a couple of weeks ago then it was 3 km away and a drop of 70 m (with a little sharp bump in the middle of that).

To the hill lovers on here that's probably nothing ... but I hate hills - especially that particular route back to my house! I'm never sure how much of it would be dismissed as hardly an effort. I would hate to live where some of you lived - or perhaps I would just have to get better quickly
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. Luckily I would say that although it seems very up and down round here there aren't any what I would call long climbs.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
I went on the Evesham CC 'Two leaf clover' yesterday. It was flat.

There was one climb, which was optional. The routesheet went round it but I chose to climb it to shorten the distance.

It was 12% for about 0.75 km. Not even 125 kCals for it. At the top, I put the bike back in a higher gear and kept deep breathing to keep O2 circulating. I had just spent 5 miles worth of CHO, so I had a small rock cake at the control stop.



As I said, the ride was 'FLAT'.





PS. I used 42 x 23 at 23 rpm putting out about 290 Watts.



If you work it out, I did 140 revs total to climb the hill. ;)
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
:biggrin:

You need to come to Carmarthenshire GB. Have a glance at an O/S north west carmarthenshire and you ll see what I mean. Get your Butt down here for one of our rides :laugh:
You mean the area which is kinda boarded by the A40, A485, A475, A484, A478? Short rides easy to get those numbers, longer rides I was seriously struggling to keep those kinds of climb rates up without repeatedly using the same roads.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
I like this definition ... but what is the minimum distance to ride before you would use them. For example my shortest ride is to drop my son at school - which is a mere half km (one way) and a drop of 15 m - and I don't notice it, and then where ever I go after that its probably up and down - but if you take where I was working a couple of weeks ago then it was 3 km away and a drop of 70 m (with a little sharp bump in the middle of that).

To the hill lovers on here that's probably nothing ... but I hate hills - especially that particular route back to my house! I'm never sure how much of it would be dismissed as hardly an effort. I would hate to live where some of you lived - or perhaps I would just have to get better quickly
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. Luckily I would say that although it seems very up and down round here there aren't any what I would call long climbs.
Maybe 15km minimum ride length.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I went on the Evesham CC 'Two leaf clover' yesterday. It was flat.

There was one climb, which was optional. The routesheet went round it but I chose to climb it to shorten the distance.

It was 12% for about 0.75 km. Not even 125 kCals for it. At the top, I put the bike back in a higher gear and kept deep breathing to keep O2 circulating. I had just spent 5 miles worth of CHO, so I had a small rock cake at the control stop.

As I said, the ride was 'FLAT'.

PS. I used 42 x 23 at 23 rpm putting out about 290 Watts.

If you work it out, I did 140 revs total to climb the hill.  ;)
If I had to guess, I'd say that your job involves lots of numbers!  :smile:
 

Chris James

Über Member
Location
Huddersfield
It's a reasonable guide (I use a similar description myself) but I'd have put a transformation on it shifting the numbers to the right. I'd say insanely hilly would be more like 1500ft per mile ten miles or greater. I wouldn't describe something that was 1040 ft per 10 miles as very hilly either, it'd just be moderately hilly or hilly.

That is because you live near Sheffield. I went out for a ride yesterday, it was fairly hilly, but could easily have been worse.

38.5 miles (60km?) and I have just plotted it on Bikely as 950m height gain.
 
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