Deaths when not using helmet

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twobiker

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So you say, so where are the papers?



The last time I looked ( revision for an exam 2 years ago) over 95% of independant scienctist, who were qualified in the subject ( the two points are important "scientists" are not equal, thats why you don't just count noses) agreed about Climate Change. I'm not interested in a snipe hunt looking for "scientists" who are not independant or have qualifications in physcology , if you have something to cite then do so and I will look at it.
www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php
 

Little yellow Brompton

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Is this a rehash of the Oregon Petition? If so the same premise applies, the orginal documents the "scientists" were sent were incorrect and wrongly ( attributed to a body, and rather than "eminent scientists" anyone with a BSc in any subject ( including MDs) can sign it.

It's a joke, a nose counting excerise , devised by those who can't make a scientific arguemtn to impress the stupid. If that is the best you have , on climate change, drinks or helmets, then you have no argument. When you have real information let me know.
 

twobiker

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Is this a rehash of the Oregon Petition? If so the same premise applies, the orginal documents the "scientists" were sent were incorrect and wrongly ( attributed to a body, and rather than "eminent scientists" anyone with a BSc in any subject ( including MDs) can sign it.

It's a joke, a nose counting excerise , devised by those who can't make a scientific arguemtn to impress the stupid. If that is the best you have , on climate change, drinks or helmets, then you have no argument. When you have real information let me know.
If you look at the article You will find that 200 of the scientists were qualified in the appropriate field, I only needed one to prove my point that there are scientists with opposing views, game over, next please.
 

twobiker

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Bicycle Deaths by Helmet Use
1994-2006



Year/ No Helmet(%), Helmet (%), Total Num

1994
776 (97%)19 (2%)796

1995
783 (95%)34 (4%)828

1996
731 (96%)27 (4%)761

1997
785 (97%)23 (3%)811

1998
741 (98%)16 (2%)757

1999
698 (93%)42 (6%)750

2000
622 (90%)50 (7%)689

2001
616 (84%)60 (8%)729

2002
589 (89%)54 (8%)663

2003
535 (85%)58 (9%)626

2004
602 (83%)87 (12%)722

2005
676 (86%)77 (10%)784

2006
730 (95%)37 (5%)669

2007
646 (92%)50 (7%)699

2008
653 (91%)58 (8%)714

http://www.bhsi.org/stats.htm



Make your own decision if you want to wear a helmet or not, here are the stats, total deaths, how many were and how many were not wearing a helmet

Glad I don't live in the US.
 

Little yellow Brompton

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If you look at the article You will find that 200 of the scientists were qualified in the appropriate field, I only needed one to prove my point that there are scientists with opposing views, game over, next please.

If you understood what you were talking about you would be embarrased that you were making a fool of yourself . If it's important to you, to think you are right, that you have won, then please feel free. Unfortunately for you, using your own logic, if only one person has an opposing view, then it seems ( according to you) you cannot be right. A little bit of a dichotomy you have created for yourself. Have fun going round in circles.
 
In fairness it was proposed in 2009.


A particle God doesn’t want us to discover

Could the Large Hadron Collider be sabotaging itself from the future, as some physicists say
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The hint is maybe in their paper which says it starts with a "a series of not completely convincing, but still suggestive, assumptions".

Science is open to new hypotheses but then demands they are tested. Unlike faith that asks you just believe irrespective of the evidence,
 

twobiker

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If you understood what you were talking about you would be embarrased that you were making a fool of yourself . If it's important to you, to think you are right, that you have won, then please feel free. Unfortunately for you, using your own logic, if only one person has an opposing view, then it seems ( according to you) you cannot be right. A little bit of a dichotomy you have created for yourself. Have fun going round in circles.
You seem to be confused, you asked me for evidence of opposing views on a subject, I have given you this, if two people have a different view on a subject, then an element of doubt is always evident hence the debates about Helmets, RLJ , etc. the only thing certain in life is eventual death.
 

Little yellow Brompton

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You seem to be confused, you asked me for evidence of opposing views on a subject, I have given you this, if two people have a different view on a subject, then an element of doubt is always evident hence the debates about Helmets, RLJ , etc. the only thing certain in life is eventual death.


As I said, if you want to think you have "won" feel free.
 

benb

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You seem to be confused, you asked me for evidence of opposing views on a subject, I have given you this, if two people have a different view on a subject, then an element of doubt is always evident hence the debates about Helmets, RLJ , etc. the only thing certain in life is eventual death.

So is there an element of doubt as to whether the earth is flat?
 
So is there an element of doubt as to whether the earth is flat?

Don't believe all that science nonsense trying to tell you its round. You just need to use common sense and your experience. Look out the window and try telling me its not flat and the sun doesn't go round it. :whistle:
 
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